- From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:02:42 -0800
- To: public-forms@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFBEC4701A.DF0450D6-ON88257504.007D41BA-88257504.007E98D6@ca.ibm.com>
Can someone point out where in the XPath 2.0 spec does it say that a set of items (e.g. a nodeset) can evaluate to false if the set of items contains one node whose content is falsey? In [1], the working group decided that future versions of XForms would allow boolean MIPs to "treat a false string as false". [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/att-0025/2008-09-10.html#resolution1 I would like to better understand, though, how this actually fixes the intended problem. I think that the working group is saying that the result of the MIP is first converted to string, and then the string is converted to boolean, except that the *string* value of "false" is treated as a boolean false. If we do not assume that the MIP result is converted to string, then the resolution [1] does not fix the problem at hand, which is that I want to have a data node like this: <isManager>false<isManager> and I want to have a MIP like this: relevant="isManager" The node isManager exists, regardless of its value, and so direct application of the boolean function produces a result of true just based on the existence of the node. But if the MIP is converted to string before being handled as described in [1], then the above MIP works the way I expect. Yet, the problem we have is that if the above is accurate, then we've really just come up with another way of saying that we apply boolean-from-string() to the MIP. And in that case, I think it is better to describe it that way because then we have consistency with how I might describe the negation case. For example, suppose instead of using relevance to restrict access to some data, I use readonly. I would be inclined to write this: readonly="not(isManager)" But we know that won't work, and we will have to explain why not. When we do, the fix will be to write this: readonly="not(boolean-from-string(isManager))" Thanks, John M. Boyer, Ph.D. STSM, Interactive Documents and Web 2.0 Applications Chair, W3C Forms Working Group Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software IBM Victoria Software Lab E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer Blog RSS feed: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/rss/JohnBoyer?flavor=rssdw
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