- From: Ulrich Nicolas Lissé <unl@dreamlab.net>
- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:44:28 +0100
- To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
- CC: "Forms WG (new)" <public-forms@w3.org>
John, thanks for highlighting the different options. However, I don't like the idea of having only 2 meetings a year and having 2 calls a week. Personally I'm quite happy with the 4 meetings a year + 1 call per week schedule. For me it would be much harder to attend 2 calls a week than to attend at least 3 of 4 meetings a year. I do understand the reasons leading to disappointing F2F attendance. But I think F2F meetings are crucial for acceleration and efficiency. From my own humble F2F experience I can tell they are much more effective than any number of phone calls. You can read this as a vote against the suggestion to have two meetings a year, but to have two calls a week. If it is really essential to reduce the number of meetings (which I feel is wrong), having three meetings a year and having a 90 minutes call per week would be ok for me. Regards, Uli. John Boyer wrote: > > We haven't had much of a chance to continue the discussion by email > about how to increase attendance and participation in 2008, but we did > begin to have some attractive ideas at the end of the last telecon that > I would like to continue discussing tomorrow. > > Here is a proposal based on the discuss: > > **How about we have only two face to face meetings, but have two calls > per week.** > > There is an obvious benefit of *reducing the cost* of participation, > which is important to the survival of smaller organizations and even > important to those at larger organizations where approvals are hard to > come by. > > There is also the obvious benefit of *reducing the schedule upset to > oneself and one's employer.* > > However, I also think this will result in *significantly accelerated > progress*. It is hard to commit a large chunk of time to the group, so > committing any time tends to get put off; indeed, the recent face to > face attendance is really just one manifestation of this general point. > > Having an extra hour *scheduled* in weekly would therefore accelerate us > by quite a bit by giving us more time in increments that people can > manage. And if you have to miss the occasional call, it's not so bad as > missing a whole face to face. > > I also think it would be possible to *get people more engaged in doing > at least one action item between the calls*. And as people get better > at doing action items, they become less of a bother because they can be > done more quickly. > > Here are a couple of logistical notes: > > If this option is selected, I would think we should consider moving the > Raleigh face to face out to May, then meet at the tech plenary in October. > > If this option is selected, I would think the second call should take > place during our old time on Thursday mornings (7am pacific, 10 eastern, > etc.). > > If this option is selected, we may need the approval of a higher > authority, such as the CEO of W3C. I think it is quite unlikely we > would have to recharter because we are holding telecons in lieu of face > to face meetings. > > Finally, note that I did also thinking of the alternative of going down > to three meetings and having a 90 minute call. But that alternative > scores quite a bit lower on all of the above metrics. It doesn't cut > costs in half, it doesn't cut the big schedule upsets in half, and it > doesn't do as good a job accelerating the group because we'd still be > meeting only once weekly, so no chance to break it up and get people to > do action items between the calls. > > Please post your thoughts about this proposal. > > Thanks, > John M. Boyer, Ph.D. > STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher > Chair, W3C Forms Working Group > Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software > IBM Victoria Software Lab > E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com > > Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer > -- Ulrich Nicolas Lissé
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