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Re: XForms Simplified Forms Syntax Review Needed

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:01:27 -0700
To: "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: chris.wilson@microsoft.com, connolly@w3.org, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "Forms WG" <public-forms@w3.org>, public-forms-tf@w3.org, steven@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFDF9F1E00.FC302C92-ON88257420.000FEDF1-88257420.0010A175@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Anne,

It remains unclear why that vote was taken since it preempts the 
collaborative work of the task force required in both WG charters.

Gregory can formally object at any point, and the HTML WG can reopen the 
issue at the discretion of the chairs if there is some new technical 
information, such as "the Forms WG has been working on a streamlined 
version of XForms markup that has a number of properties we have expressed 
are important to us, so maybe we should have a look at it to see how we 
can align whatever we have in our minds up to know with it."

This is the type of coordination and collaboration that would allow 
rationalization of whatever we have in XForms with whatever there is in 
WF2.  There are things in WF2 that obviously should be replaced by things 
in the XForms simplified syntax, just as there are quite a number of 
things we are doing both to our markup and to the underlying processing 
model to enable streamlined "on the glass" authoring.  We're trying to 
move closer to the compromised land... will you?

John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
Senior Technical Staff Member
Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

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"Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com> 
04/02/2008 03:26 PM

"Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, public-forms-tf@w3.org, "Forms 
WG" <public-forms@w3.org>
John Boyer/CanWest/IBM@IBMCA, connolly@w3.org, chris.wilson@microsoft.com, 
steven@w3.org, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>
Re: XForms Simplified Forms Syntax Review Needed

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:05:23 +0200, Gregory J. Rosmaita 
<oedipus@hicom.net> wrote:
> i would object formally, strenuously and repeatedly if Web Forms 2.0 was
> to be added to the HTML5 draft -- HTML5 and Web Forms 2.0 were submitted
> as 2 distinct documents, and it could only be the hypertext coordination
> group that could approve of incorporating Web Forms 2.0 into the HTML5
> working group draft in toto...  moreover, HTML WG members have never --
> to my knowledge -- been asked to, let alone, approved Web Forms 2.0 as
> a working group draft...

Actually, Web Forms 2.0 was submitted along with Web Applications 1.0 as 
basis for review and accepted:


Anne van Kesteren
Received on Thursday, 3 April 2008 03:02:21 UTC

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