Re: D-CENT: state of the art - not

Harry Halpin:
> Quick note - as you may know, there is over a year in the between
> project proposal writing (in 2012) and the project review/begin date
> (2013).

That is why I mentioned the January 2013 deadline.

> W3C will make sure DCENT is up to speed on standards, with Neo
> doing implementation work. Neo is a lean development firm, so we haven't
> made any choices architecturally yet, as we're interviewing users and
> figuring out their needs before jumping on board with any protocols.

+1

> Andreas - also, there has been exceedingly little work in the field
> actually since 2012, so I think your use of the term "irresponsible" is
> irresponsible :) Regardless, the only open-source I've seen some
> progress as regards interop testing was OStatus.

The XMPP community has been active all the time. But that does not imply
that XMPP is or should be the future of the Social Web. I think that we
have reached a point where previous efforts to create distributed social
media can be re-evaluated and a new start is possible based on that -
and based on more recent developments, including the progress of Linked
Data and mass surveillance

In any case it likely would not be that easy to connect Elgg instances
using XMPP because PHP does not seem to be the best language for XMPP.
It _might_ make sense for D-CENT to stick with OStatus, but then it
should not be sold as _the_ future of the Social Web.

My main concern was and is not OStatus but all the projects which were
already dead for several years when the proposal was written. I have
seen something like that before and unfortunately sometimes carelessness
regarding such details is neither restricted to a slide nor only the
result of simple ignorance (which can be corrected) but of indifference.
I would be happy to see that this fear turns out to be unfounded now.

> The IndieWeb work is making some progess now around WebMention,

For those who are interested:
https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention

> The presentation was made by NESTA myself, who have very little
> technical knowledge of the details, as they do the admin work.

I am not sure that this makes it better. If they don't know they could
have asked and should have been informed by other members of the project.

Cheers,
Andreas

Received on Monday, 24 February 2014 10:56:38 UTC