Re: Federation protocols

Dnia niedziela, 2 czerwca 2013 o 19:01:55 Miles Fidelman napisał(a):
> Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
> > Dnia sobota, 1 czerwca 2013 o 23:33:12 Miles Fidelman napisał(a):
> >> Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
> >>> And this *is* the case with IM and social networking right now. At
> >>> least with IM the whole FLOSS community stands by XMPP -- this gives
> >>> at least *some* hope to actually take on the heayweights. Libre social
> >>> networking is fatally broken right now, in my opinion, due to lack of
> >>> interoperability. Hence, it is fragmented and unable to compete with
> >>> TwitBook+. For example, it isn't really that hard for me to convince
> >>> new users to at least try a libre social network. The hard part is
> >>> choosing the network! How am I to explain them that they do not talk
> >>> to each other? This is where we lose them.
> >> 
> >> Not even true there.  At least judging from the number of projects that
> >> use IRC as a gathering point.
> > 
> > IM is not IRC. I use both and use them for different things. There is
> > some functional overlap, to be sure, but these are different kinds of
> > services.
> > 
> > What I was saying there is: as far as IM is concerned, the whole FLOSS
> > worlds stands by XMPP. And that is precisely what we should try to
> > achieve with federated social web.
> 
> I beg to differ on both points:
> 
> - IM and IRC are used in similar ways, by lots of people (I can't tell
> you how many development teams I'm aware of who leave an IM or IRC
> session open all the time) - they're both shared typing spaces

IRC is predominantly many-to-many. IM is predominantly one-to-one.

> - an awful lot of people seem to be using 0MQ instead of XMPP

That's the first I have heard of 0MQ. Could you point me to a desktop client 
so I could test it?

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak

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