Re: Position papers / workshop Re: FSW CG now has 100 members

On 4 July 2013 02:26, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote:

> On 07/03/2013 09:33 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> Harry Halpin:
>>
>>> Just to be clear, it's an official W3C workshop. Insofar as this CG is
>>> part of the W3C, it's a workshop that part of the CG. The co-chair of
>>> this CG is on the PC and attending. Whether or not the workshop is
>>> representative of this group depends on if people submit position
>>> papers and attend.
>>>
>> I object. Please stop claiming that this workshop is aligned with the
>> interests or priorities of the FSW CG.
>>
>> As I alread wrote the description of the workshop is aligned with the
>> interests and priorities of the Social Business CG and not with those of
>> the Federated Social Web CG. The same is true for the program committee.
>> Position papers do not change that.
>>
>> I considered submitting a position paper, but I am reconsidering now. If
>> the W3C considers creating a WG based on the results of the workshop
>> please do so, but then do not claim that the WG represents the FSW CG.
>>
>> The W3C organised the workshop together with the Social Business CG
>> while the FSW CG was not involved. It seems to be to late to change
>> that. I would not even agree with the title "The Future of Business" for
>> a common workshop.
>>
>
> Again, we are happy to accept more people on the PC. Again, we had a
> workshop for the Federated Social Web in 2011 and we lacked enough
> structure to go to a WG. Thus, when the Social Business CG said they'd like
> to try another workshop and showed that they had considerable backing from
> industry, we decided to try again. That in no way means FSW should be
> excluded. We tried to cast the net as wide as possible in terms of scope so
> FSW would fit in.
>

Harry this is incredibly confusing.  Is your workshop part of federated
social web community group (as berlin 2011 was) or not.  You've made
conflicting statements.   Please could you clarify.


>
> However, if folks from the Federated Social Web CG don't show up, there's
> little we can do. Note that Tantek from the IndieWeb is showing.
>
>
>> That being said I look forward to the results of your workshop.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
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