Re: Introduction and question

Hi Wyb,

ISS/IM is not another standard to create a decentralized social
network. It's aim in fact is changing the information flow dynamics so
that
information flows in a bottom-up manner with a high degree of
virality, while at the same time maintaining quality. So the key
concepts of ISS/IM could very much be applied to any social network,
independent from the underlying technology or protocol. Initially the
focus was XMPP/Jabber using existing standards (PubSub, PEP (Personal
Event Publishing)), but our focus has shifted towards the Web through
Web services.

I recommend that you read about ISS/IM at our site with an open mind.
It has enough details about how to make it work with XMPP. But most
importantly, if you "get" the concept, you'll be blown away by it's
potential in completely revolutionizing the flow of information.

Thanks,
Nick

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:51 AM, wyb mail <wybmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Nick,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your reply. I understand this is another standard? It looks very
> interesting too. I read something of a relation with Jabber, xmpp; Can it
> interact with other standards like xmpp easily?
>
>
>
> Kind regards, Wyb
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 11:34:43 -0300
>> From: nick@iss.im
>> To: public-fedsocweb@w3.org
>
>> Subject: Re: Introduction and question
>>
>> Hi Wyb and Michiel,
>>
>> >> I have just joined the group and some other groups of W3C
>>
>> I'm also new to this group and I share Wyb's enthusiasm regarding open
>> standards and federated social web!
>>
>> > To understand federated social web you need to at least understand the
>> > ideas behind xmpp federation and the ideas behind OStatus federation.
>>
>> I'm the author of ISS/IM (Instant Syndicating Standards), which was
>> greatly inspired by XMPP. Nowadays we are more focused on bringing
>> this technology to the Web. I'll be launching a free e-book in about 2
>> months from now which details this technology specifically for the
>> Web, but for now you can access information about it at our website:
>>
>> http://iss.im/
>>
>> I have also created a group here at W3C with the following description:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/community/groups/proposed/#iss-im
>>
>> "ISS/IM is an open set of standards that empowers individuals to
>> discover and syndicate information through the help of their own
>> personal social network. As of today, there is no existing technology
>> that allows individuals to share information in a bottom-up manner on
>> a global scale. ISS/IM is a proposal to create just that: a
>> distributed worldwide recommender system perfectly tuned to output a
>> very personalized stream of information for each individual, where
>> information flows from the personal social network towards the whole
>> wide world."
>>
>> I look forward to working together with the community, specially with
>> this group, which is very much a relevant alternative to today's
>> centralized social networks.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Welcome! It's not an all-or-nothing technology. It's a loose
>> > collection of techniques that, together, make the Indie web, as well
>> > as the APIs of the web's big platforms, more 'social'.
>> >
>> > IMHO (others probably have more info to add):
>> >
>> > ActivityStreams is a very central part of federated social web, you
>> > may want to start there.
>> >
>> > To understand federated social web you need to at least understand the
>> > ideas behind xmpp federation and the ideas behind OStatus federation.
>> > Since both work with ActivityStreams, they're not necessarily mutually
>> > exclusive. Read-write web is also relevant, i guess.
>> >
>> > Webfinger is also quite central, but it's currently being merged with
>> > swd, which means that the spec-development activity is taking place at
>> > the IETF's appsawg list (and this is quite technical stuff so maybe a
>> > bit boring). that's something you wouldn't know as a newcomer
>> > obviously. so if you want to know something, don't be afraid to ask!
>> >
>> > Even though there's no central organization (apart from maybe
>> > workshops where people come together), together we can answer each
>> > other's questions and between all of us we asymptotically have sort of
>> > an overview :) at least we can try to point you to where to look, and
>> > the more you read and follow the discussions, the more you yourself
>> > become a part of the knowledge base (that's how we all started, i
>> > guess).
>> >
>> > Anyway, welcome, and don't be afraid to ask questions! There are
>> > probably other people who have the same questions as you, so it's
>> > useful to ask them on this list.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Michiel
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM, wyb mail <wybmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have just joined the group and some other groups of W3C
>> >>
>> >> As a supporter of open standards and because of my study Informatics,
>> >> combining among others social sciences and ICT,
>> >>
>> >> I am very curious about what you are doing and how you are working.
>> >>
>> >> I hope I can contribute something to the group though I am not really
>> >> an
>> >> engineer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Are you still active as a group? Since January there does not seem to
>> >> be
>> >> much activity concerning topics send to this address.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I was looking through your pages but it not exactly what is worked on
>> >> at
>> >> this moment
>> >>
>> >> What was interesting to see is how many platforms are working on a
>> >> federated
>> >> social web
>> >>
>> >> What kind protocols are they working with, do they have all their own
>> >> standards?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards, Wyb
>> >
>>
>>

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