- From: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:59:52 +0100
- To: <public-evangelist@w3.org>
"Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org> >But the same thing is true for HTML 4.01 > Among HTML 4.01 in the world, how many are valid? Lots, most of the invalid HTML content doesn't have a doctype of any variety, and valid sites such as microsoft.com and others take HTML 4.01, in fact most valid major corporate sites other than W3.org seem to choose HTML 4.01 varieties >We are not in a position where it's a failure, I would say it's more a >kind of "using it my own way" But there are very specific conformance requirements? but my problems aren't about the authors of content ignoring specifications, it's about the authors of User Agents ignoring them - the XML conformance rules being the ones in question, no-one ever attempted to help me with any arguments to explain that? Is it really that indefensible? >What are the problems of XHTML 1.0 which makes it impossible to use in >your Web site? WCAG says to use the latest version of a specification, so if XHTML was relevant, as accessibility is important XHTML 1.1 would be the one I'd chose, of the UA's that support XHTML 1.1, all of them either also support HTML 4.01, or have proxies in front of them to make it the case that they do, because of that there's simply no economic or practical reason to offer both XHTML 1.1 and HTML 4.01 content simultaneously, I should just offer HTML 4.01 to everybody since no-one is harmed. The XHTML user agents are also extremely weak - lack of incremental rendering, bugs which cause valid documents to be marked invalid and error messages that only make sense to web-geeks displayed. >(not talking about Spec theory, but really practical issues, real world, >as you said. In my daily usage of XHTML 1.0, I have none, but I'm not >maybe the best person to know all problems.) Why do you feel the need to ignore WCAG 1 - 11.1 ? Or do you feel that XHTML 1.1 is not currently supported? By my understanding Mozilla, Opera, Safari, Konqueror, IceBrowser and huge numbers of mobile browsers all support XHTML 1.1, indeed I cannot think of a user agent that supports XHTML 1.0 that does not also support XHTML 1.1. Cheers, Jim.
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