- From: Austin Govella <austin@desiremedia.com>
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:57:49 -0500
- To: Thor Larholm <public-evangelist-w3@jscript.dk>
- Cc: Mike.Steckel@SEMATECH.Org, public-evangelist@w3.org, list@webdesign-L.com
> I will have to disagree on the level of degradation, a standards-based > NS4-compatible design _will_ limit and cripple your choices severely and > will leave you with lesser options than what you had in the > TABLE/FONT-based > layouts of the past. Thor, I think you ferreted the disagreement out quite admirably. When you say standards you mean no tables for layout. When I say standards I mean simple tables for layout. I agree that in an ideal world, we would only use tables for data, but tables are a perfectly acceptable part of the XHTML 1.0 specification. You can create NS4 compatible websites using XHTML 1.0 and CSS, without sacrificing your visual design. >> If you're limiting CSS to >> basic text formatting and background colors .... > There we go again, limiting ourselfes to use a tiny subset of what is > available to cater for one deprecated browser But these limitations easily cover everything you could do with a font tag. The font name (verdana, arial, times), the font size, the color of the text, and bold or italic or both. >> If you used more advanced formatting, or even positioning, all of your >> CSS >> hacks and workarounds would be placed in a second stylesheet (as is best >> practice), so there would be NO problem tracking the workarounds. > Please define "more advanced formatting". CSS positioning and line-height are two that come to mind. Advanced in the sense that they're not reliably supported in NS4. As a side-note, line-height isn't *that* important. And the positioning can be handled by tables. Other formatting like borders, like line-height, are also not that important and degrade perfectly (to nothin, which isn't so bad). >> From a business perspective, there is no reason to use 50% of your > ressources on an everdiminishing 5% of your users. Simple tables with CSS formatting help avoid the above statistics. -- Austin
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