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Re: opening hours RDF cal use case

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:08:36 -0500 (EST)
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
cc: <www-rdf-calendar@w3.org>, <public-esw@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303281955480.31749-100000@tux.w3.org>

As another similar use case, I am avialable by telehpone during certain
hours, and in person (at a given location) during a different set of hours.

foaf:openingHours seems to subclass an idea of being "available" in a way
that is particularly relevant for something carried on at a phyiscal
location. A person doesn't have "opening hours" as such, but is responsive in
different ways (face-to-face, phone, email, etc...) at different times (and
arguably for different people - presumably we will figure that out by having
the ability to restrict information according to trust rules).

To develop the use case further, there are a couple of questions I have. If I
am arriving in Boston/Bristol and staying for half a day, using travel
information according to Dan Connolly's work, will I be able to get to this

This implies the granularity question you allude to in both time and space -
which seems to be the sort of thing that aboutEachPrefix was meant to help us
deal with.

And how do the two areas of work (travel times with arrival and departure
and shop opening hours) interoperate - have we built a system which allows
for easy merging of these data?

(And what have we learned along the way in terms of how to design RDF
vocabularies and how to model the universe...?)



On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Dan Brickley wrote:

>(copying swad-europe list)
>Just a brief note to let folks know that I've made an attempt
>at writing up this use case in the ESW Wiki,
>For now I've stuck with the example from this email thread,
>but my intention is to extend/augment it with real data
>describing real local businesses (from Bristol initially),
>and include photographs, contact details, geographic markup etc.
>If folks have additional examples, do feel free to edit the Wiki
>The page currently has two examples, the first is the
>un-edited raw ical for the repeating event, the other attempts
>to mix in additional data. I have taken (for now) the approach of
>inventing a new property (foaf:openingHours) that relates a
>resource (some kind of unmodelled business entity) to a
>specification of its opening hours. Not sure if this works well,
>yet. It would be nice to have some bulk data to play with... does
>anybody here have suggestions on that front? SKICal folks maybe?
>Thanks for any suggestions, additions...
>(*) "This is a WikiWikiWeb, a collaborative hypertext
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>and modification of information. It is something
>of an experiment in WikiConsensus."
>"You can edit any page by following the link at the bottom
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>There are also (pre last RDF Calendar IRC chat) some notes
>on the RDF Calendar effort at:

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