- From: Danny Ayers <danny666@virgilio.it>
- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:59:10 +0200
- To: "Danny Ayers" <danny666@virgilio.it>, "Cayzer, Steve" <Steve_Cayzer@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>
- Cc: "Esw" <public-esw@w3.org>
ps. There's also ThreadsML which appears to have led to a proposed RSS module with one element: <item> Element: <thr:children> ( rdf:Seq ) Some familiar names involved in this around a year ago, but it looks like it may have fizzled out. (if you hear anymore about this, please let me know) http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/modules/threading/ http://www.quicktopic.com/7/H/rhSrjkWgjnvRq?m1=66&mN=66 Cheers, Danny. > -----Original Message----- > From: public-esw-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Danny Ayers > Sent: 27 March 2003 17:46 > To: Cayzer, Steve; 'Charles McCathieNevile' > Cc: Esw > Subject: RE: IBIS vocab for semblogging > > > > Hi Steve, > > > Our take on this was that Claimaker dealt primarily with > concepts (not the > > papers themselves). > > I'm not sure, if the subject of a statement is (the URI of) a paper, then > presumably that's what's been talked about. > > Anyhow, the closest thing I'm aware of to what you describe is David > Menendez's Thread Description Language [1] : > > [1] http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/web-threads/ > > My main criticism of this would be that it tries too hard to do everything > itself, rather than reusing terms from other schema (like Annotea and > probably DC). But it does include agreesWith etc. > > Note that my IBIS vocab isn't set in stone, and suggestions are still > welcome ;-) > > Cheers, > Danny. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cayzer, Steve [mailto:Steve_Cayzer@hplb.hpl.hp.com] > > Sent: 27 March 2003 16:28 > > To: 'Charles McCathieNevile'; Danny Ayers > > Cc: Esw > > Subject: RE: IBIS vocab for semblogging > > > > > > To resurrect an old thread... > > > > We've started looking at ontologies for 'semantic links'. We > had a look at > > IBIS, Annotea threads and Claimaker. > > Our requirement is to be able to link bibliographic blogs - > > primarily using > > 'agreesWith', 'disagreesWith'. > > > > Our take on this was that Claimaker dealt primarily with > concepts (not the > > papers themselves). IBIS appears to me to take a similar line, > > making useful > > simplifications to the Claimaker model. These approaches are > both good for > > 'argumentation networks'. > > > > For dealing with the items themselves (which is what we want to > > do), Annotea > > threads offer quite a useful schema. Not a perfect fit to our > > domain, since > > we are not dealing with threaded discussions, and we might want > to extend > > the schema to different semantic relationships. But certainly > > good enough to > > start with. So we are looking to make threads a pluggable version of our > > semantic ontology. > > > > The reason for this rambling mail is to ask whether Danny, > > Charles or anyone > > else on the list is aware of, or would recommend, any other > ontologies for > > encoding such semantic links. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org] > > Sent: 18 January 2003 21:45 > > To: Danny Ayers > > Cc: Esw > > Subject: Re: IBIS vocab for semblogging > > > > > > > > Hi Danny, > > > > the vocabulary stuff you are looking at sounds like it is extending > > the thread vocabulary produced for Annotea (or for that matter > > the original > > Annotea vocabulary of annotation types) to allow for discussion threads > > to be tracked. This seems to me like a good idea. > > > > http://www.w3.org/2001/03/thread > > > > The ability to provide user-friendly interfaces for this (such as the > > icon-selection that Amaya has for marking different types of > annotation - > > see > > the help file at > > http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/attaching_annotations/configuring_icons) is a > promising paralell for the use of graphic RDF editors (IdeaGraph, IsaViz, > RDFAuthor, etc) > > cheers > > Chaals > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Danny Ayers wrote: > > > > >I didn't realise Semantic Blogging was being followed up as an e-sw case > >study, until I found the link on the new blog... > > > >Anyhow, one of the apps I've been working on for my Ideagraph project is > >semantic blogging and to help with this I've started writing up a > vocabulary > >(RDFS) for 'Issue-Based Information Systems', the idea being to use terms > >like 'Argument', 'Question', 'pro', 'con' within blog (and other) > discussion > >threads. > > > >http://purl.org/ibis > > > >Very much a work in progress, suggestions welcome. > > > >Cheers, > >Danny. > > > >----------- > > > >http://dannyayers.com > > > >"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne." - Chaucer > > > > > > > > -- > Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 > 136 > SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 > 4 92 38 78 > 22 > Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia or > W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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