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RE: SWAD-europe dissemination and use plan

From: Libby Miller <Libby.Miller@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:59:16 +0100 (BST)
To: Danny Ayers <danny666@virgilio.it>
cc: Libby Miller <Libby.Miller@bristol.ac.uk>, public-esw <public-esw@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0208282052290.4430-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

hey Danny,

Thanks for your comments :)
This is as you say a public list and we welcome comments from non
project partners.

Interesting that you think there's a gap for this beginners' mailing
list. Where, out of interest, do you think these sorts of questions go
at the moment?

We are going to try to use existing community lists where possible, but
this focus would fit with our FAQ based approach. We will discuss it on
this list and at our next face to face meeting and see how we go.

Thanks again,


On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Danny Ayers wrote:

> Hi Libby et al,
> (the list has public in its name, so I hope I'm right in assuming comments
> from the public are acceptable here)
> Good document, and some worthy aims. It got me thinking about what was
> lacking at present from SW idea dissemination in Europe. So in the interests
> of facilitating "... collaboration and information exchange between relevant
> Semantic Web communities", I'd like to suggest the setting up of a mailing
> list/forum targeted at a particular part of these (potential) communities.
> The discussion on the rdf*@w3.org lists is mostly between those that are
> already reasonably familiar with Semantic Web/RDF ideas, and I would suspect
> that this might manifest itself to the newcomer as a kind of exclusivity.
> (To some extent the W3C as whole has this kind of an aura, the WGs populated
> by representatives of multinationals who meet in smoky rooms... for the
> outreach to work, SWAD-E has to at least be perceived as more than a
> sub-cabal of the W3C.)
> I'm sure a question like "How (and why!) do I deploy Dublin Core and RSS on
> my website?" would be treated well on rdf-interest, but I still think there
> is need for a place where questions like "What is Dublin Core?" would not
> only be tolerated but encouraged. There is a whole range of technical
> information that may be too specific for rdf-interest but not specific
> enough for the lists maintained by developers of particular toolkits etc.
> I think its fair to say that rdf-interest is tending toward the direction of
> xml-dev, where if someone asks why their Xerces parser is crashing on a '&',
> they are likely to get an answer explaining why namespaces are the work of
> satan.
> The localisation of SWAD-E also suggests other possibilities, for example a
> forum of the kind I'm suggesting would be a good place to organise meetings
> & conferences that were lower key than the big events.
> The key points I'd suggest for such a list would be -
> * topics : Semantic Web, RDF & related technologies
> * emphasis on practice
> * open subscription
> * any European language acceptable
> * minimal formality
> * unmoderated, archived, backed by faq pages (+ irc, wiki..?)
> Cheers,
> Danny.
> ---
> Danny Ayers
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: public-esw-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-request@w3.org]On
> >Behalf Of Libby Miller
> >Sent: 28 August 2002 10:50
> >To: public-esw@w3.org
> >Subject: SWAD-europe dissemination and use plan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I've been working on this, and a rough draft is at
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/reports/dissemination_use_plan/
> >
> >The plan is to send it to the commission in a weeks' time (Tuesday 3rd
> >September). There's a lot of tiding to be done, but this is the basic
> >structure we plan to submit.
> >
> >At this stage we are looking for comments and for additions,
> >particularly in the sections on partner-specific internal audience
> >(Section 1.1), and in the actual DUP (Section 4) where any upcoming
> >conferences and other opportunities for dissemination would be useful.
> >
> >The document will be updated over time as we know better what
> >conferences are coming up and so on.
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Libby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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