- From: Johan De Smedt <johan.de-smedt@tenforce.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:37:53 +0200
- To: "'Dan Brickley'" <danbri@danbri.org>, "'Richard Ishida'" <ishida@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org>, "'SKOS'" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Hi, When realy needed we use indeed xmlLiteral. data properties of this type get an annotation to stat the xhtml xontent type that can be used examples in http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml namespace are (types reused from modular xhtml): - xhtml.body.type - xhtml.div.type - xhtml.span.type - xhtml.bdo.type - xhtml.ruby.type - xhtml.a.type ... I do not know of any mechanism to refine xmlLiteral in a formal (OWL) way. So for these data properties we have a proper app specific validation. Reuse of the value in html is then straight forward. Kind Regards, Johan De Smedt > -----Original Message----- > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Dan > Brickley > Sent: Thursday, 26 May, 2011 16:18 > To: Richard Ishida > Cc: Ivan Herman; SKOS > Subject: Re: Fwd: Arabic or Hebrew languages (Right to Left Languages) and SKOS, XML,RDF,etc. > > Hi Richard, > > Adding back in the SKOS list directly! Thanks for your reply- copied > below for the list. Makes sense re attributes/markup, and to use > explicit markup not support code. But I don't know much about the > 'dir' attribute - which namespace if any that it is in, etc. From an > RDF/XML perspective, SKOS that uses it would need to use XML Literal > markup, I guess? I'd be really happy if someone from this list put > together a short best practice guide for SKOS at the modelling level, > and SKOS at the syntax (RDF/XML, RDFa, Turtle...) level. Ideally some > SPARQL queries too... > > cheers, > > Dan > > On 26 May 2011 14:59, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> wrote: > > Hi Danbri, > > > > For creating XML applications, see the articles linked from > > http://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-xml#direction > > > > See also the editors working draft of Additional Requirements for Bidi in > > HTML at http://www.w3.org/International/docs/html-bidi-requirements/ for > > additional considerations that may apply to XML applications as well as > > HTML. > > > > The answer to the question "Can we use the xml:lang attribute to determine > > direction?" is no (see the documentation). You need a separate dir > > attribute. Also, markup is better than Unicode control characters - which > > means by implication that you should avoid natural language in attribute > > values in case you need to deal with bidi text. > > > > Let me know if that helps. > > RI > > > > > > > > > > On 26/05/2011 12:35, Dan Brickley wrote: > >> > >> Hello Richard, > >> > >> Do you have any quick advice or 'read this' urls for this SKOS thread? > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Christophe Dupriez<christophe.dupriez@destin.be> > >> Date: 26 May 2011 12:38 > >> Subject: Arabic or Hebrew languages (Right to Left Languages) and > >> SKOS, XML,RDF,etc. > >> To: SKOS<public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Armando > >> Stellato<stellato@info.uniroma2.it> > >> > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> I would like to know if some best practices has been set up to support > >> RTL (right to left) languages in XML, RDF or SKOS. > >> > >> The problem: when displaying Arabic or Hebrew, the browsers must be > >> told to write from right to left and (ideally) the text is better > >> displayed aligned on the right rather than the left. > >> > >> One may wish that applications not be obliged to make explicit tests > >> like "if language is Arabic or Hebrew then RTL+align:right else then > >> LTR+align:left". > >> > >> What have been done for this? What the community think that should be > >> done? > >> > >> I made a test by hand to prepare addition of Arabic to JITA: > >> http://www.askosi.org/JITA-ar.htm > >> > >> Other languages of the JITA thesaurus, as used to access E-LIS (click > >> on concepts in schemas): > >> http://www.askosi.org/jita > >> > >> For now, my "feeling" is to add Unicode character x202B before Arabic > >> and Hebrew labels and Unicode character x202C at the end (i.e. within > >> the data). > >> Character x202C is Pop Direction Format: return to the direction (LTR > >> or RTL) in use when x202B (switch to RTL) was encountered. > >> > >> But what others do??? > >> > >> I will be happy to learn about your thought on this topic! > >> > >> Christophe > >> > > > > -- > > Richard Ishida > > Internationalization Activity Lead > > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > > http://rishida.net/ > >
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