- From: Jürgen Jakobitsch <jakobitschj@punkt.at>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:05:52 +0100 (CET)
- To: Christophe Dupriez <dupriez@destin.be>
- Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
hi, please note again that the visualizations are not my feathers and i'm a prefuse starter my self. please take a look at the gallery @ prefuse.org, the weight thing should easily be possible. wkr turnguard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christophe Dupriez" <dupriez@destin.be> To: "Jürgen Jakobitsch" <jakobitschj@punkt.at> Cc: "Dan Brickley" <danbri@danbri.org>, "SKOS" <public-esw-thes@w3.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:11:55 PM Subject: Re: GraphViz and SKOS... Hi Jürgen! I like very much the "treemap" ! Does the surface could vary depending of a "weight'? in my projects, I collect "usage data" (how many times a concept is used in a given index or application). The surface of each concept could be linked to this weight ? (I do not see any in http://turnguard.com/opendirectory/prefuse/OpenDirectoryTreeML.xml ) May be you know the display of WinDirStat, a very handy program to manage your hard disk: http://windirstat.info/ It is a lot similar (in its principle) to your treemap. Good evening! Christophe Le 15/02/2011 17:46, Jürgen Jakobitsch a écrit : > hi, > > i just recently wrote a tiny SkosToTreeML converter. > that way i can use prefuse, see these two examples (layout by prefuse, i just filled in the data) > > http://turnguard.com/opendirectory/prefuse/treemap/ > http://turnguard.com/opendirectory/prefuse/treeview/ > > i you're interested i'm certainly willing to share my code. > > wkr turnguard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Brickley"<danbri@danbri.org> > To: "Christophe Dupriez"<dupriez@destin.be> > Cc: "SKOS"<public-esw-thes@w3.org> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:39:59 PM > Subject: Re: GraphViz and SKOS... > > On 15 February 2011 14:01, Christophe Dupriez<dupriez@destin.be> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I always resisted graphing thesauri relations because I thought relations >> can be presented through adequate layout and typography. >> I found by accident GraphViz ( http://www.graphviz.org ), an open source >> software existing since 1996 doing exactly what a non-graphic designer >> dreams: >> draw a good schema from logical relations... >> >> Many examples are in the documentation: >> http://www.graphviz.org/pdf/dotguide.pdf >> >> May be some of you know a better or more recent tool? Please let me know! >> The interesting thing to do now is to translate automatically and SKOS file >> (or extract) into a .DOT file... >> Anyone has done experiments in that direction? Can we learn about it? > GraphViz is pretty cool. I made an RDF Viz tool with it some while ago > (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-interest/2000Mar/0095.html) > and Art Barstow later integrated GraphViz into W3C's RDF Validator. > > If you notice the graphing options in http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ > ... that's graphviz. > > (where it says "triples and/or graph", it's the "graph" option). > > Although SKOS is expressed in RDF, and therefore the general RDF > visualizations will also display SKOS, it might be that a custom > SKOS-centric mapping to graphviz works better. Automatic layout only > works for small examples, ... but enough to usefully illustrate a data > structure. > > For similar facilities in pure Javascript, > http://www.graphdracula.net/ is also worth a look. > > One scenario is to use GraphViz as a 'first pass' at layout, then > import (via SVG?) into graphical desktop tools like OMNIGraffle, to > make a more elegant final version... > > If you make something interesting, do share it here :) > > cheers, > > Dan > >> My opinion is that drawing rapidly and effortlessly schemas based on EXTRACT >> from a thesaurus is very valuable for discussions between validators. >> I would like to integrate .DOT generation into ASKOSI.org. >> >> Have a very nice day! >> >> Christophe >> >> P.S. I invite you to test the following (written in .DOT graph description >> language) using some of the available Web services (for instance: >> http://graphviz-dev.appspot.com/). >> It is an example of a thesaurus extract under revision: >> >> digraph g{ >> rankdir=LR; >> concentrate=true; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANALGESICS; >> ANALGESICS->ACETANILIDE; >> ANALGESICS->CARFENTANIL; >> CARFENTANIL->CARFENTANIL_CITRATE; >> ACETANILIDE->P_ACETANISIDINE; >> ANALGESICS->ACETYLMORPHINE; >> ACETYLMORPHINE->_3_ACETYLMORPHINE; >> ACETYLMORPHINE->_6_ACETYLMORPHINE; >> ANALGESICS->AMINOPHENAZONE; >> AMINOPHENAZONE->AMPYRONE; >> ANALGESICS->METAMIZOLE_SODIUM; >> ANALGESICS->NARCOTIC_ANALGESICS; >> NARCOTIC_ANALGESICS->CIRAMADOL; >> NARCOTIC_ANALGESICS->TRAMADOL; >> TRAMADOL->TRAMADOL_HYDROCHLORIDE; >> ANALGESICS->NARCOTICS; >> NARCOTICS->ACETYLMORPHINE; >> NARCOTICS->CARFENTANIL; >> NARCOTICS->EMBUTRAMIDE; >> ANALGESICS->NON_NARCOTIC_ANALGESICS; >> NON_NARCOTIC_ANALGESICS->PROPYPHENAZONE; >> ANALGESICS->NORPIPANONE; >> ANALGESICS->XYLAZINE; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANALGESICS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANTICONVULSANTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANTIEMETICS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANTITUSSIVES; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->EMETICS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->NOOTROPICS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->WEIGHT_LOSS_AGENTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_DEPRESSANTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_STIMULANTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->CENTRAL_MUSCLE_RELAXANTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->NARCOTIC_ANTAGONISTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->NEUROPROTECTIVE_AGENTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANESTHESIA_ADJUVANTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ALCOHOL_DETERRENTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->ANTI_DYSKINESIA_AGENTS; >> CENTRAL_NERVOUS_SYSTEM_AGENTS->PSYCHOTROPIC_DRUGS; >> } >> >> >> > -- punkt. netServices ______________________________ Jürgen Jakobitsch Codeography Lerchenfelder Gürtel 43 Top 5/2 A - 1160 Wien Tel.: 01 / 897 41 22 - 29 Fax: 01 / 897 41 22 - 22 netServices http://www.punkt.at
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