- From: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:24:02 +0100
- To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Cc: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Marc Wick <marc@geonames.org>, Dublin Core <DC-ARCHITECTURE@jiscmail.ac.uk>, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@talis.com>, Libby Miller <Libby.Miller@bbc.co.uk>, Lise Rozat <lise.rozat@mondeca.com>
Hi Bernard On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 03:08:01PM +0200, Bernard Vatant wrote: > Hello Alistair > > Thanks for the finding. Looks indeed very close to what we need, indeed, and > we have URIs for the status values. > Looking a closer there is a bit of namespace hijacking / wishful thinking - > not to mention the weird xml:lang attribute on the skos:Concept element > itself :( > > <skos:Concept rdf:about="http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus/1003" > xml:lang="en"> > <skos:inScheme rdf:resource=" > http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus"/> > <*skos:status* rdf:resource=" > http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus/1001"/> > <skos:prefLabel xml:lang="en">Change-Proposed</skos:prefLabel> > </skos:Concept> > > *skos:status* ??? I don't think it has ever been there even in the spec > drafts, or maybe remotely in the corner of some discussions. Alistair, > remember such a thing? Hm, no I don't think so. I've only ever used Dan & Libby's status vocab. I did once jot a few related thoughts down at http://esw.w3.org/ConfigurationManagement but didn't use the SKOS namespace. Incidentally, searching the SKOS UCR doc for "status" pointed me to the BIRNlex use case, http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-ucr/#UC-BirnLex - see birn_annot:curationStatus. It might be worth following that up. Also I know the folks responsible for IVOA.net have done lots on vocabulary management, see e.g. http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/latest/Vocabularies.html - maybe worth getting in touch. > ... but if someday soon we have, courtesy of DCMI diligence, a > dcterms:status property it would fit neatly in the slot. Sounds reasonable. Cheers, Alistair > > Bernard > > > 2010/4/29 Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com> > > > FWIW, I know jon phipps created a status vocabulary which is used > > internally in metadataregistry.org, see: > > > > http://metadataregistry.org/concept/list/vocabulary_id/31.html > > > > Maybe not what you're after, but I thought I'd make the connection. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alistair > > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 08:47:45PM +0200, Dan Brickley wrote: > > > +cc: Leigh, Libby > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Bernard Vatant > > > <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>wrote: > > > > > > > Hello folks > > > > > > > > We are currently revisiting the Geonames ontology (long overdue) > > including > > > > feature codes, on which I would like to add some Dublin-Core like > > > > annotations re. concepts. In particular some concepts are going to be > > > > deprecated using dcterms:isReplacedBy, some will be deprecated > > altogether > > > > without replace because they've never be used, and quite a lot will be > > put > > > > in a status of quasi-obsolescence or quasi-extinction. Those are > > feature > > > > codes used less than one per million features, which means less than 7 > > times > > > > considering Geonames has over 7 millions features in store ... > > > > I was wondering which vocabulary is the best for expressing that. > > > > http://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/ns is used by FOAF, > > Bibontology > > > > and others. But it defines status as a data property, I would prefer an > > > > object property with an enumerated range of individual values. Of > > course I > > > > can define those in geonames data space, but since this is not > > particular to > > > > geographical codes, I was wondering if there was some vocabulary on > > some > > > > shelves I miss. BTW I was amazed not to find any "status" property in > > Dublin > > > > Core. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is a limitation of the sw-vocab-status vocab. At the end of > > last > > > year I started writing it up towards a W3C Note (after a 'go for it' from > > > Ivan), with Libby Miller and Leigh Dodds. The effort is a little stalled > > but > > > the draft is at http://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/note.html > > > > > > If you think it's worthwhile, we could expand the note to include new > > more > > > useful properties. > > > > > > Interested to help? :) > > > > > > (even encouraging us to put time into this counts as help!) > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suggestions? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bernard Vatant > > > > Senior Consultant > > > > Vocabulary & Data Engineering > > > > Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 > > > > Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > Mondeca > > > > 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France > > > > Web: http://www.mondeca.com > > > > Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > > Alistair Miles > > Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org> > > The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics > > Roosevelt Drive > > Oxford > > OX3 7BN > > United Kingdom > > Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman > > Email: alimanfoo@gmail.com > > Tel: +44 (0)1865 287669 > > > > > > -- > Bernard Vatant > Senior Consultant > Vocabulary & Data Engineering > Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 > Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > Mondeca > 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France > Web: http://www.mondeca.com > Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com > ---------------------------------------------------- -- Alistair Miles Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org> The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics Roosevelt Drive Oxford OX3 7BN United Kingdom Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman Email: alimanfoo@gmail.com Tel: +44 (0)1865 287669
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