- From: Ross Singer <rossfsinger@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:24:44 -0500
- To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Cc: hans.cools@agfa.com, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, Rebecca S Guenther <rgue@loc.gov>
- Message-ID: <23b83f161003021924w5225b83bn7af6f302fdf055eb@mail.gmail.com>
By the way, I also made the MARC Language codes, Geographic Area Codes and Country codes available as RDF, as well: http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/ They aren't modeled as SKOS, but somehow seem relevant to this thread (or maybe not). I'm a little torn as to whether or not it's even appropriate to do so. Bernard, do you have a plan for how (or if) you will link lingvoj's Lingvos to id.loc.gov's language resources, if they are indeed skos:Concepts? Thanks, -Ross. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>wrote: > Hi Hans > > Regarding languages in ISO 639, are you aware of the URIs / ontology I've > made public since 2007 at http://lingvoj.org? > Also in copy is Rebecca Guenther in charge of ISO 639 codes at Library of > Congress, according to whom a publication of ISO 639 codes in SKOS was on > the LoC roadmap. > See http://id.loc.gov/authorities/about.html > > My idea at lingvoj.org like yours, I guess, was to provide placeholderURIs > default any publication by the authoritative ISO source. As soon as > authoritative URIs are published by the relevant source, we should in good > practice deprecate our URIs to those. Except we have no specific RDF > vocabulary for URI lifecycle, such as "deprecatedResource" and "replacedBy", > but that another story. At least we have owl:sameAs :) > > Rebecca, any idea when id.loc.gov is likely to release ISO 639 URIs? > > On a more technical level I uploaded your language ontology in Protégé 4 > and saved in RDF-XML (I belong to this strange sort of people reading better > XML than text formats for RDF and the result is a bit weird : the blank > nodes representing Concepts linked to Language instances through > skos:exactMatch are broken, e.g., see below [1]. Seems that Protégé is not > happy with your user-defined datatype for notations :( > > BTW why not representing Language directly as a sub-class of skos:Concept > and attach each to the various schemes (ISO 639-1, 639-2, 639-3) it belongs > to? Something I don't define at lingvoj.org, bu which seems a good idea to > add. Put it on my todo list. > > Bernard > > [1] Output of Protégé 4 RDF-XML for "French" > > <foster:Language rdf:about="fre"> > <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#Thing"/> > <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:datatype=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anyURI" > >http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages# > </rdfs:isDefinedBy> > <foaf:name xml:lang="en">French</foaf:name> > <skos:exactMatch> > <rdf:Description/> > </skos:exactMatch> > <skos:exactMatch> > <rdf:Description/> > </skos:exactMatch> > </foster:Language> > <rdf:Description> > <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-1"/> > </rdf:Description> > <rdf:Description> > <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-2"/> > </rdf:Description> > <rdf:Description> > <skos:notation rdf:datatype=" > http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-2DT > ">fre</skos:notation> > </rdf:Description> > <rdf:Description> > <skos:notation rdf:datatype=" > http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-1DT > ">fr</skos:notation> > </rdf:Description> > > > 2010/2/26 <hans.cools@agfa.com> > > >> Dear Antoine, >> >> I've put 3 links on page http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets: >> >> - country codes as standardized in ISO 3166-1 version 2006; >> - languages codes as standardized in ISO 639; >> - clinical drug administration forms along FDA. >> Note: namespaces on http://www.agfa.com/w3c/2009/ not fixed yet. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> * >> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare* >> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research >> T +32 3444 8185 | F +32 3 444 8401 | M +32 499 59 55 75 >> >> Quadrat NV, Kortrijksesteenweg 157, 9830 Sint-Martens-Latem, Belgium >> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/ >> ------------------------------ >> Click on link to read important disclaimer: >> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/maildisclaimer >> >> >> *Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>* >> >> 26/02/2010 09:34 >> To >> Hans Cools/AXCXW/AGFA@AGFA, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org> >> cc >> Subject >> Fwd: [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Hans, >> >> Your following 'ontology' looks interesting, and might interest some >> people on the SKOS list! >> >> Could you advertise it as well on >> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets ? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Antoine >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies >> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:00 +0100 >> From: hans.cools@agfa.com >> To: uschold@gmail.com >> CC: diglib@infoserv.inist.fr, dl@dl.kr.org, >> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net, >> owl@gimli.mindlab.umd.edu, people@semanticdesktop.org, >> protege-discussion@mailman.stanford.edu, >> protege-owl@mailman.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org, >> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org, >> sem-grd@ogf.org, semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org, >> semantic_web@googlegroups.com, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de >> >> >> >> >> Dear Michael, >> >> As an exaple of our ontology series, we put 'Countries' on >> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main, using SKOS. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> * >> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare* >> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research >> T +32 3444 8185 | F +32 3 444 8401 | M +32 499 59 55 75 >> >> Quadrat NV, Kortrijksesteenweg 157, 9830 Sint-Martens-Latem, Belgium >> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Click on link to read important disclaimer: >> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/maildisclaimer >> >> >> *Michael F Uschold <uschold@gmail.com>* >> Sent by: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org >> >> 18/02/2010 07:03 >> >> >> To >> owl@lists.mindswap.org, diglib@infoserv.inist.fr, >> dl@dl.kr.org, >> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net, >> people@semanticdesktop.org, protege-discussion@lists.stanford.edu, >> protege-owl@lists.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org, >> semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org, semantic_web@googlegroups.com, >> sem-grd@ogf.org, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de, >> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org >> cc >> >> Subject >> Request for "Good" Ontologies >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message is about an effort you may wish to know about and hopefully >> contribute to. >> >> *WHAT: T*he _NeOn project_ <http://www.neon-project.org/> is supporting >> an effort to collect high quality ontologies. >> >> I invite you to submit one or more "_exemplary ontologies_ >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>" >> to a growing catalog in the _Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_ >> <http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/>. >> Identify one or more ontologies that: >> >> * you have significant knowledge or experience with, >> * you regard as an excellent example of a "high quality" ontology >> See: "_What is an Exemplary Ontology_ >> < >> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>" >> for ideas about this; edit them if you wish. >> >> Can you or any of your colleagues think of exemplary ontologies to add >> to the catalog? Think first about the ontologies you have used that are >> authored by others, rather than your own. >> >> *WHY: * /to make it easy for people to find good ontologies to draw >> inspiration from and to emulate./ >> >> If you don't have much time, I will make it easier by talking you >> through it on the phone. I'm UscholdM on Skype. >> >> *HOW: *Quick Instructions: >> 1. Visit *_Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_* >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/> (_ >> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/_) >> 2. Click the "*_How to register_* >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register>" link at lower >> left of the page; follow instructions to get a login name and password. >> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register_ into >> your browser >> 3. See: "*_What is an Exemplary Ontology_* >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>" >> link for some criteria >> ---Or paste: >> h_ttp://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology_ >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology> >> into your browser >> 4. Visit *Exemplary Ontology Catalogue* >> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main> page to make sure >> the ontology is not already there. >> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main_ into >> your browser >> 5. Click the *Su/bmit a new Exemplary Ontology/* button. >> 6. Fill out a form describing various aspects of the exemplary ontology. >> Key fields are: >> 1. *Name *of ontology >> 2. *Description *(Short) >> 3. *Purpose *of the ontology >> 4. *Justification *(why you think this is an exemplary ontology) >> 5. *URI *of where to find the ontology >> 6. *References *One or more references to learn more. >> Thanks very much, >> Michael >> ====== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Bernard Vatant > Senior Consultant > Vocabulary & Data Engineering > Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 > Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > Mondeca > 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France > Web: http://www.mondeca.com > Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com > ---------------------------------------------------- >
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