- From: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:23:57 +0100
- To: Andrew Gibson <a.p.gibson@uva.nl>
- Cc: Helmut Nagy <h.nagy@semantic-web.at>, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Hi Andrew, your approach sounds very sensible, good practice. Cheers Alistair On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:11:07AM +0200, Andrew Gibson wrote: > Hi, this is an interesting topic that I have some interest in > myself, one comment inline below > > Alistair Miles wrote: > >Hi Helmut > > > >On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 09:18:29PM +0200, Helmut Nagy wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>e.g i got an Concept "Vienna" and i want to make the following mapping: > >> > >>"Vienna" skos:exactMatch http://dbpedia.org/resource/Vienna > > > >Possibly a reasonable thing to do. Personally, if it's useful for you to > >do this, then I would just go for it. If it turns out to have unexpected > >consequences, then you can always change later. Might also be worth asking > >the dbpedia folks if and how they use SKOS. > Being a bit of a pedant, I do not like to use the skos matching > relations unless I can already see that the resource I am linking my > concept to is of rdf:type skos:Concept, skos:inScheme to a concept > scheme, has a skos:prefLabel and preferrably at least one > broader/narrower relationship. Unfortunately this means I rarely use > matching relations to anything other than skos resources that I have > created myself ;-). In the real world Im not sure this makes any > difference, and the Semantic Web will probably survive either way, > but I think it gives other people more confidence in your vocabulary > modelling if its clear some care has been taken. > > DBPedia asserts no skos relations for any resource I have seen > (which is not necessarily a bad thing, and I havent checked > everything), and so in the absence of anything more specific, I just > link from my concepts to dbpedia with rdfs:seeAlso, which "is used > to indicate a resource that might provide additional information > about the subject resource", so for example, its rdfs:labels or > rdfs:comments might be useful to a semantic web application, but do > not expect any directly relevant skos relationships that it could do > skos things with. > > Cheers, > Andrew > >>skos:it? t-shirts? :) > > > >Sorry, Danbri and I had a discussion a while back about ideas for a new inverse > >property pair in SKOS that would be used for linking from SKOS concepts to > >"real things" like people, mountain ranges, etc., and back again. Danbri wanted > >to call the properties skos:it and skos:as, e.g., <mySkosConceptOfVienna> > >skos:it <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Vienna>. Danbri also thought this would > >be a great marketing ploy, as you could print t-shirts with "skos:it!" on the > >front (meaning like, if you've got a thesaurus, SKOS it!) ... unfortunately > >there wasn't enough desire for something like this in the SKOS reference > >at the time, and it was hard to figure out what the semantics should be, > >so we left it. > > > >It would be interesting to see if anyone else is doing this kind of linking > >into and out of SKOS concept schemes, and if so, what properties they're > >using. Anyone? > > > >Cheers > > > >Alistair > > > >>Cheers > >>hel. > >> > >> > >>>Hi Helmut, > >>> > >>>On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 04:51:38PM +0200, Helmut Nagy wrote: > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>i got one question, should skos:mappingRelations only be used to map to skos:Concepts of a different skos:conceptScheme or would it also be consistent to use skos:mappingRelations to map to linked data like DBpedia or FreeBase? > >>>I'm not sure, I think it depends what type of resource you want to map > >>>to. What assertions are made by DBpedia and FreeBase for the resources you > >>>want to map to? > >>> > >>>Danbri: the return of skos:it? (we should have printed those t-shirts, > >>>then it would have definitely gone in the spec... :) > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>> > >>>Alistair > >>> > >>>>Thanks, > >>>>hel. > >>>> > >>>>| Helmut Nagy, Consultant > >>>>| Semantic Web Company GmbH > >>>>| Lerchenfelder Guertel 43/5 > >>>>| A - 1160 Wien, Austria > >>>> > >>>>COMPANY INFORMATION > >>>>| http://www.semantic-web.at/ | http://www.i-semantics.at/ | http://blog.semantic-web.at/ > >>>> > >>>>PERSONAL INFORMATION > >>>>| h.nagy@semantic-web.at > >>>> > >>>-- > >>>Alistair Miles > >>>Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org> > >>>The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics > >>>Roosevelt Drive > >>>Oxford > >>>OX3 7BN > >>>United Kingdom > >>>Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman > >>>Email: alimanfoo@gmail.com > >>>Tel: +44 (0)1865 287669 > > > -- Alistair Miles Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org> The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics Roosevelt Drive Oxford OX3 7BN United Kingdom Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman Email: alimanfoo@gmail.com Tel: +44 (0)1865 287669
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