- From: Johan De Smedt <Johan.De-smedt@tenforce.com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:38:05 +0100
- To: "L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk" <L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>, Giacomo Bartoloni <geco82@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-esw-thes@w3.org" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
Three alternatives and some considerations: 1) The modeling of sub-thesauri in skos would be facilitated if a skos:Collection need not be disjoint with a skos:ConceptScheme. This would allow for different sub-classes of skos:Collections - collections that represent arrays - collections that represent sub concept schemes or ISO like concept groups. Note: I would NOT favor this because - the skos:member relation mixes the skos:Collection and skos:Concept members of a collection. - skos:Collection and skos:ConceptScheme scheme are disjoint classes Thus making a micro-thesaurus a skos:Collection would effectively not allow to model a micro-thesaurus as a skos:ConceptScheme. Occasionally this is not helpful because a micro-thesaurus does is a thesaurus when taken on its own. - it would mean a change of the recommendation (while other alternatives are available - see 2) 2) A new class ConceptGroup may be specified: - Having subGroup/superGroup hierarchy possibilities next to membership - A Concept Group would not be disjoint from skos:ConceptScheme Note: this would be more close to the ISO DIS model Leonard refers to. Considerations: If some skos extension would define skos-ext:ConceptGroup, with: - skos-ext:subGroup/superGroup properties establishing the hierarchy between these groups - a skos-ext:inConceptGroup establishing concept group membership, then the EUROVOC ontology can take that into account as follows: - ev:Domain and ev:MicroThesaurus would be sub-class of skos:ConceptGroup - the properties ev:domain/ev:microThesaurus structuring the Domain/Microthesaurus hierarchy would become sub properties of skos-ext:subGroup/superGroup - <a-skos-ext:ConceptGroup-uri> skos:inScheme <a-skos:ConceptScheme-uri> declares the subject skos-ext:ConceptGroup to be defined by the object skos:ConceptScheme 3) A separate top-level taxonomy/concept-scheme can be defined to establish the domain/micro-thesaurus (or any thesaurus top-level organization) hierarchy. A sub-property of dc:subject (e.g. skos-ext:subjectMatch) could be applied to map the concepts of the original thesaurus to concepts of top-level (domain/micro-thesaurus) thesaurus. The sub-property would need to define the semantics of concept-group membership. This approach - allows multiple classification hierarchies to be applied to an existing thesaurus. - makes the original thesaurus independent from the used top-level classification hierarchy. - looses the semantics that a top-level concept (domain or microthesaurus) actually can be considered as a thesaurus. (at least in the skos universe because skos:Concept and skos:ConceptScheme are disjoint) I would not favor this approach for a thesaurus top level organization. - This alternative belongs more on the problem area of matching and mapping thesauri. - skos core has a nice arsenal of (matching) properties to handle this problem area. - The top-level organization of thesauri can be handled as explained in 2. Johan. > -----Original Message----- > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-thes- > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Leonard Will > Sent: 20 February, 2010 19:04 > To: Giacomo Bartoloni > Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org; Enrico Francesconi > Subject: Re: Doubts about domains and microthesauri in Thesaurus to > SKOS conversion > > On 2010-02-18 15:11, Giacomo Bartoloni wrote: > > Hi everybody, I'm studying the best way (or the most beautiful and > > meaningful form) to represent a thesaurus with domains and > > microthesauri, in my case Eurovoc and few ones, in "SKOS 2009" > format. > > My doubt is how to deal with domains and microthesauri, I found many > > examples (UKAT's, IVOA vocabularies and STW's) but it seems to lack a > > shared method to do it. > > In UKAT thesaurus both the thesaurus and the microthesauri are > > skos:ConceptScheme and the concepts have the property skos:inScheme > > pointing to the main scheme and to the related microthesaurus. > > According to IVOA all the domains and the microthesauri are > > skos:Concept but I think that in this way I loose the base thesaurus > > Descriptor goal and I put all domains, microthesauri and descriptors > > on the same level. > > In the STW's thesaurus, there is only one skos:ConceptScheme, the > > thesaurus itself, and the domains, the microthesauri and the > > descriptors are mapped into skos:Concept but this class is extended > > into stw:Descriptor and ztw:Thsys. > > > > Which is the best thesaurus representation? > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > Giacomo Bartoloni > > > You might be interested to see the draft ISO 25963-1 data model, which > I > attach. This contains some elements that are not (yet) implemented in > SKOS, such as ThesaurusArray and ConceptGroup. > > Arrays are sets of sibling terms, often grouped or ordered by some > "characteristic of division" specified in a "NodeLable", whereas > ConceptGroups are collections of concepts which may not be > hierarchically related to each other, but may be subsets of the whole > thesaurus, such as microthesauri or domains. > > These are described in more detail in the draft standard, which is > available for comment until 28th February 2010 on the British Standards > Institution web site at <http://drafts.bsigroup.com/> (Free > registration > required). Have a look at paragraphs 15.2.17 and 15.2.18. > > I hope that someone will come up with a way of incorporating these and > other parts of the ISO model into SKOS as extensions or additions if > necessary. I haven't yet worked out whether the The EUROVOC Thesaurus > Ontology Schema that Johan de Smedt sent is consistent with the ISO > model, but would be glad so see any comments. > > Leonard Will > > -- > Willpower Information (Partners: Dr Leonard D Will, Sheena E Will) > Information Management Consultants Tel: +44 (0)20 8372 0092 > 27 Calshot Way L.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk > ENFIELD Sheena.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk > EN2 7BQ, UK http://www.willpowerinfo.co.uk/
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