- From: Stephen Bounds <km@bounds.net.au>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:39:49 +1100
- To: SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
- CC: "Sini, Margherita \(KCEW\)" <Margherita.Sini@fao.org>, al@jku.at
Hi Margaret & Andy,
I thought that too when I first looked at the SKOS Primer, but you need
to remember that OWL sub-properties are subtractive, not additive.
Another way of putting this is that super-properties make *less*
restrictive statements about the world.
The full hierarchy of skos:broader is:
skos:semanticRelation
skos:broaderTransitive
skos:broader
Which means that for A skos:broader B, this entails that:
A skos:broaderTransitive B and
A skos:semanticRelation B
We can't reverse the order of skos:broaderTransitive and skos:broader in
the because of the transitive case. If:
A skos:broaderTransitive B and
B skos:broaderTransitive C then
A skos:broaderTransitive C but
A skos:broader C is NOT entailed
If skos:broader were a super-property of skos:broaderTransitive, this
statement would also need to be true.
Regards,
-- Stephen.
Sini, Margherita (KCEW) wrote:
> I agree with Andy, I also think it should be a sub-property, not a
> super-property...
>
> Regards
> Margherita
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Langegger
> *Sent:* 11 March 2008 12:14
> *To:* Alasdair J G Gray
> *Cc:* Antoine Isaac; Simon Spero; iperez@babel.ls.fi.upm.es; SKOS
> *Subject:* Re: RE : Suggestion for SKOS FAQ
>
> Hi,
>
> first I din't pay much attention to your discussion, because I
> thought this case is clear... looking at the spec I read
> "skos:broaderTransitive owl:subClassOf skos:broader" - but there it
> says (to my surprise): skos:broaderTransitive and others are "super
> properties" - why that?
>
> If I would model this I would say:
>
> skos:semanticRelation a owl:ObjectProperty .
> skos:broader a skos:semanticRelation .
> skos:narrower a skos:semanticRelation .
> skos:broaderTransitive a skos:broader; a owl:TransitiveProperty .
> skos:narrowerTrasnsitive a skos:narrower; a owl:TransitiveProperty .
> and so on...
>
> can anybody comment on this why the specs says "super property" and
> not "sub property" ?
> Whith the statements above I can deceide whether to allow
> transitivity or not. And because of OWA, skos:broader not explicitly
> asserted as a transtive property, it does not mean, that it _cannot
> be_ transitive, sure it can, but it does not need to be valid.
>
> If a taxonomy should be ISO2788 compliant, just use the *Transitive
> versions - so it's up to the modeler and not to the application
> which I think is fine.
>
> regards
> Andy
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