[SKOS] relationships between labels (was RE : [SKOS] thesaurus USE patterns)

Hello all,

In the framework of the Semantic Web deployment group I was to capture the issue on representing links between labels.
Using many contributions from the people of this list (thanks by the way for your mail, Mark) I wrote something on this problem. Input on it (cf forwarded mail) is welcome, I hope I have respected everyone's thoughts/proposals. Please remember it does not aim at addressing the global problem of having labels as individuals, it is just focussed on links between labels.

Cheers,

Antoine

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Hi all,

I have written on
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels
a first attempt regarding the action:

> [PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to capture the issue on capturing
> relationships between labels [recorded in
> [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]


Perhaps the most important, concerning the action itself, is the
'motivation' part that gives example of such links between labels.
The 'solutions' part goes into discussion on ways to solve the issue,
inspired by the material found via [1]  and the page Alistair recently
wrote about Annotation Patterns [2].
Any further attempt to go into a solution in terms of SKOS model shall
be worked out in cooperation with the issue on annotations on labels, I
think.

Cheers,

Antoine

[1]
http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals.html#thesaurusRepresentation-11
[2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/AnnotationPatterns


-------- Message d'origine--------
De: Mark van Assem [mailto:mark@cs.vu.nl]
Date: jeu. 15/02/2007 14:34
À: Antoine Isaac
Cc: Bernard Vatant; SKOS
Objet : Re: [SKOS] thesaurus USE patterns
 

Hi,

> Well there is a point in what Bernard says: if you aim at some standard
> it's better if people are convinced there is nothing like a monster in
> the closet ;-)

Agreed. So who can spot a monster?

> So keeping simple and keeping the door open for extensions, yes. Keeping

In which case you need a skos:Term class.

BTW there was a reconciliary proposal by Dan Brickley to indeed use the 
more complex model but provide a rule set with which you can 
automatically convert to the simpler (current) model. But I don't know 
if that would be useful as the conversion would probably be difficult 
the other way around.

> I think that in the process of that I will try to give references to
> existing cases where these links would be useful. This may include some

Look at all the places where WordNet is used :-)
A Term class basically means starting to use a model very similar to 
WordNet's.

> also try to mine the old mails of this list, where this subject has
> already been debated as Mark recalls. So if you have examples to feed us

See [1,2,3].

Mark.

[1]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals.html#thesaurusRepresentation-11
[2]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2006May/0009.html
[3]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2005Nov/0000.html