- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:07:08 +0100
- To: Jakob Voss <jakob.voss@gbv.de>
- Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Hi Jakob Seems we are very close indeed. Thanks for merging the pages! I think your approach of making a combination of tags a narrower concept of each component is better than mine, and I would be indeed happy to get rid of owl classes altogether, but nevertheless capture in some way that #zh is a primary language, #Hant a script (right?) and #HK a region. Soo ... maybe we could simply define a "tagType" attribute to flag the simple tags (lang is the default namespace, whatever that will be) <skos:Concept rdf:about='#zh'> <skos:prefLabel>zh</skos:prefLabel> <skos:altLabel>Chinese</skos:altLabel> <lang:tagType rdf:resource="#PrimaryLanguage"> <dc:date>2005-10-16</dc:date> </skos:Concept> Typing without classes is certainly better in this case than subclassing skos:Concept, because otherwise we will have a quite weird conceptScheme with concepts in different classes, with common narrower concepts with none of those. Very bizarre ... And we also forget about any "Language" class, which is certainly a good idea, and actually going around the difficulty of defining what "is"a language. Which I gladly buy (because nobody will ever be able to define what a language is). I now look at my example document http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_French, written in en-US about fr-CA to see how it flies: <foaf:Document rdf:about="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_French"> <dc:language rdf:resource="⟨en-US"/> <dc:subject rdf:resource="⟨fr-CA"> </foaf:Document> Not bad. We have in your model lang:en-US skos:broader lang:en lang:en-US skos:broader lang:US So I will find my document by looking under either "lang:en" or "lang:US" indexes. Seems to fly well indeed. :-) Bernard Jakob Voss a écrit : > Bernard Vatant wrote: > > >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2006Dec/0033.html >> >> I'd never had any feedback about the latter, although we are now well >> ahead into the next year ... :-( >> but seems that Jakob is walking along similar lines. >> Jakob, did you look at http://esw.w3.org/topic/Languages_as_RDF_Resources? >> What do you think? >> > > Thanks for pointing me to your proposal. I merged the pages but there > are some differences between our approaches. I'd completely build upon > SKOS instead of using different classes and OWL: > > <skos:Concept rdf:about='#zh'> > <skos:prefLabel>zh</skos:prefLabel> > <skos:altLabel>Chinese</skos:altLabel> > <dc:date>2005-10-16</dc:date> > </skos:Concept> > <skos:Concept rdf:about='#Hant'> > <skos:prefLabel>Hant</skos:prefLabel> > <skos:altLabel>Han (Traditional variant)</skos:altLabel> > <dc:date>2005-10-16</dc:date> > </skos:Concept> > <skos:Concept rdf:about='#HK'> > <skos:prefLabel>HK</skos:prefLabel> > <skos:altLabel>Hong Kong</skos:altLabel> > <dc:date>2005-10-16</dc:date> > </skos:Concept> > <skos:Concept rdf:about='#zh-Hant'> > <skos:prefLabel>zh-Hant</skos:prefLabel> > <skos:altLabel>traditional Chinese</skos:altLabel> > <dc:date>2003-05-30</dc:date> > <skos:broader rdf:resource='#zh'/> > <skos:broader rdf:resource='#Hant'/> > </skos:Concept> > <skos:Concept rdf:about='#zh-Hant-HK'> > <skos:prefLabel>zh-Hant-HK</skos:prefLabel> > <skos:altLabel>Hong Kong Chinese in traditional script</skos:altLabel> > <dc:date>2005-04-11</dc:date> > <skos:broader rdf:resource='#zh-Hant'/> > <skos:broader rdf:resource='#HK'/> > </skos:Concept> > > But as far as I understand this is no contradiction - my proposal may be > a less detailed subset of yours. > > By the way I'd prefer to use skos:notation and/or skos:title and > skos:Coordination but these are not defined yet. > > Greetings, > Jakob > > > -- *Bernard Vatant *Knowledge Engineering ---------------------------------------------------- *Mondeca** *3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France Web: www.mondeca.com <http://www.mondeca.com> ---------------------------------------------------- Tel: +33 (0) 871 488 459 Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com <mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> Blog: Leçons de Choses <http://mondeca.wordpress.com/>
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