- From: Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:48:28 -0000
- To: "Reul, Q. H." <q.reul@abdn.ac.uk>, <public-swd-wg@w3.org>, <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Hi Quentin, > I think [ISSUE 44] might have been resolved at the f2f in > Amsterdam a few months ago as I think to remember that we > would allow people to use skos:broader/skos:narrower as both > transitive and intransitive. > > However, I believe that these semantic relations should be > made transitive. For each skos:ConceptScheme, there might > have one or more top concept and there might have several > subconcepts available for each of them. > > Example: > skos:ConceptScheme W > W skos:hasTopConcept X > X skos:narrower Y > Y skos:narrower Z > > The user might want to know that Z skos:broader X. Or would > simple graph operation be enough to find all the sub- or > super- concepts? Out of interest, what is the use case you are thinking of? Why does your user need to know Z skos:broader X? Given a concept, if you want to find all concepts above ("parents") and below ("children") in the broader/narrower hierarchy, you could do this programmatically, using an API like Jena, in which case you don't need to do any transitive reasoning. However, if you want to use a query language like SPARQL, and you want to find e.g. all "parent" concepts in a single query, then you would have to do some transitive reasoning first, and query the graph that includes your inferred triples. Note that I think there are two separate questions here. One question is, how do I implement a specific piece of functionality in software, e.g. find all parents or children of a given concept in a broader/narrower hierarchy. One possible solution to this question is to use transitive reasoning. However, to achieve this you *don't* need skos:broader rdf:type owl:TransitiveProperty to be a *standard part of SKOS* -- you can do whatever you like within the confines of your application. It is a completely separate question to ask, if I am sharing some SKOS data, can I share the axiom skos:broader rdf:type owl:TransitiveProperty with others? Can I share data inferred using this axiom with others? The answers to these questions *do* depend on what we put in the SKOS standard. > Furthermore, we have defined a skos:Concept rdf:type > owl:Class and hence skos:broader and skos:narrower could be > used to describe owl:Class in ontologies. This does not follow. It would follow we stated skos:Concept rdfs:subClassOf owl:Class. but that is a very different statement from skos:Concept rdf:type owl:Class. However... > I'm not sure that > we want skos:semanticRelation to be applied between owl:Class. ... our semantics for SKOS do not prohibit using skos:semanticRelation, skos:broader, skos:narrower or skos:related between two classes! Cheers, Al. > > [ISSUE 44] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44 > > ****************************************** > * Quentin H. Reul * > * PhD Research Student * > * Department of Computing Science * > * University of Aberdeen, King's College * > * Room 238 in the Meston Building * > * ABERDEEN AB24 3UE * > * Phone: +44 (0)1224 27 4485 * > * http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/~qreul * > ****************************************** > > > > -- Alistair Miles Research Associate Science and Technology Facilities Council Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Harwell Science and Innovation Campus Didcot Oxfordshire OX11 0QX United Kingdom Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman Email: a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
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