- From: Mark van Assem <mark@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:59:27 +0300
- To: Leonard Will <L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>
- CC: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Hi Leonard, I think SKOS using the word 'Collection' is fine as long as the connection with node labels is made clear, which I think the Guide does. Collection is a more technical term which links it nicely to its use from a technical perspective. We only have to choose one of the solutions to prevent them from being inferred to be concepts... Cheers, Mark. Leonard Will wrote: > > In message <447AFD2A.6060603@mondeca.com> on Mon, 29 May 2006, Bernard > Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote >> Bottom line : maybecurrent specification is a bit unclear about >> collections, the core issue being not to know if they should be blank >> nodes or not, but to make clear if and why skos:Collection and >> skos:Concept are disjoint classes, if they indeed should be (of which >> I remain to be fully convinced), and what the notion of "collectable >> property" actually means. > > "Collection" is the rather unfortunate term adopted by SKOS for one type > of what the thesaurus standard BS8723 calls a "node label", specifically > a node label which contains a "characteristic of division", showing the > basis on which the following array of concepts has been grouped. In the > example being discussed here, "milk by source animal" is a label saying > that the concepts listed under it are grouped by source animal. > > According to the standard, node labels are not, and do not represent, > concepts. "They are present only for the purposes of systematic display, > and they do not qualify for any of the inter-term relationships . . ." > > "Milk by source animal" is not a narrower term of "milk", and it is not > a broader term of "buffalo milk", and any semantic structure should not > imply these relationships. > > The problem is that most standard thesaurus management software does not > have the functionality to handle these node labels properly, but > treating them as though they were concepts does generally allow > reasonably correct displays. This is clearly a fudge, which should not > be perpetuated in SKOS. > > I realise that using the standard thesaurus / classification > nomenclature of "array" and "node label" may cause confusion in the > semantic web / ontology / computing community, where these terms may > have different meanings or connotations, but I hope that some compromise > may be possible. Certainly there needs to be a distinction between the > set of concepts grouped under a label and the label itself. > > Leonard Will > -- Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam markREMOVE@cs.vu.nl - http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark
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