- From: Mark van Assem <mark@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:59:27 +0300
- To: Leonard Will <L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>
- CC: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Hi Leonard,
I think SKOS using the word 'Collection' is fine as long as the
connection with node labels is made clear, which I think the Guide does.
Collection is a more technical term which links it nicely to its use
from a technical perspective.
We only have to choose one of the solutions to prevent them from being
inferred to be concepts...
Cheers,
Mark.
Leonard Will wrote:
>
> In message <447AFD2A.6060603@mondeca.com> on Mon, 29 May 2006, Bernard
> Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote
>> Bottom line : maybecurrent specification is a bit unclear about
>> collections, the core issue being not to know if they should be blank
>> nodes or not, but to make clear if and why skos:Collection and
>> skos:Concept are disjoint classes, if they indeed should be (of which
>> I remain to be fully convinced), and what the notion of "collectable
>> property" actually means.
>
> "Collection" is the rather unfortunate term adopted by SKOS for one type
> of what the thesaurus standard BS8723 calls a "node label", specifically
> a node label which contains a "characteristic of division", showing the
> basis on which the following array of concepts has been grouped. In the
> example being discussed here, "milk by source animal" is a label saying
> that the concepts listed under it are grouped by source animal.
>
> According to the standard, node labels are not, and do not represent,
> concepts. "They are present only for the purposes of systematic display,
> and they do not qualify for any of the inter-term relationships . . ."
>
> "Milk by source animal" is not a narrower term of "milk", and it is not
> a broader term of "buffalo milk", and any semantic structure should not
> imply these relationships.
>
> The problem is that most standard thesaurus management software does not
> have the functionality to handle these node labels properly, but
> treating them as though they were concepts does generally allow
> reasonably correct displays. This is clearly a fudge, which should not
> be perpetuated in SKOS.
>
> I realise that using the standard thesaurus / classification
> nomenclature of "array" and "node label" may cause confusion in the
> semantic web / ontology / computing community, where these terms may
> have different meanings or connotations, but I hope that some compromise
> may be possible. Certainly there needs to be a distinction between the
> set of concepts grouped under a label and the label itself.
>
> Leonard Will
>
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Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
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