- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:44:29 +0200
- To: "Miles, AJ \(Alistair\)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>, <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
- Cc: "Dan Brickley \(E-mail\)" <danbri@w3.org>
Hi Alistair > I like your usage scenarios, they'll be really useful when trying to write this up. > > > A subject in Topic Maps in just that unameit. Define a topic > > of which subject is this > > unameit, of which both eg:People and foaf:Person are > > *occurrences*, with > > "a:defined-by-OWL" and "a:defined-by-SKOS" as their > > respective occurrence types. This is > > just as (un)formal as can be, and catches exactly what you > > want to say. > > > > Simple and clean. No vocabulary issues of "denotation" or whatever. > > > > Er... isn't this bending the TM notion of an 'occurrence' somewhat? Yes. But TM folks themselves have bent it in all of curious ways ... > Also doesn't this just introduce an intermediate in the mapping? I'm not sure > that going through topic maps to get from a SKOS concept to an OWL class and > back would be practical? Actually that was just an idea of the kind of representation, not suggesting that it should use a specific TM specification (XTM or TMDM). If you want to be completely RDF-ish, replace the above *topic* by a RDF resource a:Person *with no specific type*, and the above occurrences by matching RDF properties. a:Person a:defined-in-SKOS eg:People a:Person a:defined-in-RDFS foaf:Person or even better, put those properties on a blank node (just got this idea) _:node1 a:SKOS_representation eg:People _:node1 a:RDFS_representation foaf:Person > And I think you'll find yourself going round in circles when you try to > represent the above in RDF. Because you could use RDF to say that 'the subject > of topic X is a class' or 'the subject of topic Y is a concept.' Nope. The 'subject' is neither a class, nor a concept to begin with. It's something unformal, with no type, that happens to be represented as a SKOS concept or a RDFS class ... I think the blank node representation is really cool. > The TM notion of a 'subject' and the RDF notion of a 'resource' are essentially identical > (i.e. they are the 'things' that we make 'statements' about). Therefore > asserting the right sort of mapping relationship between two things depends > alot on what sort of things they are, and not at all on the language/formalism > (i.e. RDF, TM, whatever ...) that is being used to make the statements about them. Agreed, but I fail to see your point. Does the above help? > I've got this nagging feeling that if I understand RDF semantics I'd be able to > make sense of all this. Is there anything good on the web explaining (for a > dunce) what a 'model theory' or an 'interpretation' is? <lookaway/> Bernard ********************************************************************************** Bernard Vatant Senior Consultant Knowledge Engineering bernard.vatant@mondeca.com "Making Sense of Content" : http://www.mondeca.com "Everything is a Subject" : http://universimmedia.blogspot.com **********************************************************************************
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