- From: Carl Mattocks <carlmattocks@checkmi.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:07:44 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Miles, AJ \(Alistair\)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
- Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Agreed glossaries are not controlled vocabularies ... but they are a popular Knowledge Organisation System used to define the meaning of related terms ... just not (so) rigorously controlled . I think it useful to include a reference to "glossaries" that obviates the need to answer the question of 'why is glossary excluded from the definition. ?' cheers carl <quote who="Miles, AJ \(Alistair\)"> > >> >> 1. "...glossaries and other types of controlled vocabularies.." Sorry, >> but lots (perhaps most) of glossaries are not controlled vocabularies. >> Lots of glossaries give more than one definition for the same term, >> especially when they are multilingual. Better to drop the mention of >> glossaries, in my view. > > OK glossaries are not controlled vocabularies, but I think they are still > concept schemes (where two concepts can have the same preferred label). > > Cheers, > > Al. > > > >> >> 2. I agree subject heading lists are more like systems than schemes. >> >> 3. Would it be possible to put in ", some taxonomies," instead of just >> ", taxonomies," since we are having such difficulty in agreeing a >> definition for them? >> >> 4. Anyway, I don't like Leonard's narrow definition of taxonomy, >> limiting it to monohierarchical. I'd go along with one narrow >> definition, limiting it to the Linnaean style of taxonomy, which does >> happen to be monohierarchical but applies only to species, genera and >> other taxa of organisms. As soon as you move outward from that, it's >> useful to embrace polyhierarchy as an option. But we do need to spend >> further time agreeing a definition, hopefully one that will >> be *useful* >> to the community of electronic information users. >> >> All the best >> Stella >> >> ***************************************************** >> Stella Dextre Clarke >> Information Consultant >> Luke House, West Hendred, Wantage, Oxon, OX12 8RR, UK >> Tel: 01235-833-298 >> Fax: 01235-863-298 >> SDClarke@LukeHouse.demon.co.uk >> ***************************************************** >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org >> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, AJ >> (Alistair) >> Sent: 07 February 2005 12:34 >> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org >> Subject: RE: What about "taxonomies"? RE: Glossary of terms >> relating to >> thesauri and faceted classification >> >> >> >> This all sounds good to me, will update the SKOS Core guide & spec >> accordingly (if no-one has any objections). >> >> Al. >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org >> > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Leonard Will >> > Sent: 05 February 2005 20:50 >> > To: SKOS >> > Subject: Re: What about "taxonomies"? RE: Glossary of terms >> > relating to >> > thesauri and faceted classification >> > >> > >> > >> > In message >> > <F5839D944C66C049BDB45F4C1E3DF89D18DB74@exchange31.fed.cclrc.a >> > c.uk> on >> > Fri, 4 Feb 2005, "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk> wrote >> > >A 'conceptual scheme' or 'concept scheme' is defined here >> > as: a set of >> > >concepts, optionally including statements about semantic >> > relationships >> > >between those concepts. Thesauri, classification schemes, subject >> > >heading schemes, terminologies, glossaries and other types of >> > >controlled vocabularies are all examples of conceptual schemes. >> > > >> > >How does that sound? >> > >> > It sounds fine to me, and as nobody has raised serious >> > objections I have >> > added it to the glossary at >> > <http://www.willpowerinfo.co.uk/glossary.htm>. I hope that is OK. >> > >> > I think you have to call it a "concept scheme" rather than a >> > "conceptual >> > scheme", because the latter form makes it sound as though >> it is not a >> > real scheme, just a conceptual one . . . >> > >> > >Do you think we should add 'taxonomies' to the second >> > sentence, or not :) ? >> > >> > I have added it, as I have also added "taxonomy" to the >> glossary with >> > it's narrower definition as a monohierarchical >> classification scheme. >> > >> > I put in a note to say that "taxonomy" is sometimes used with >> > a broader >> > meaning, which seems equivalent to your definition of >> > "concept scheme" >> > above. Adding it to the definition of "concept scheme" with >> > that meaning >> > would be self-referential, and should therefore be avoided. >> > >> > Leonard >> > >> > -- >> > Willpower Information (Partners: Dr Leonard D Will, >> > Sheena E Will) >> > Information Management Consultants Tel: +44 >> > (0)20 8372 0092 >> > 27 Calshot Way, Enfield, Middlesex EN2 7BQ, UK. Fax: +44 >> > (0)870 051 7276 >> > L.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk >> > Sheena.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk >> > ---------------- <URL:http://www.willpowerinfo.co.uk/> >> > ----------------- >> > >> >> > > -- Carl Mattocks co-Chair OASIS (ISO/TS 15000) ebXMLRegistry Semantic Content SC co-Chair OASIS Business Centric Methodology TC CEO CHECKMi v/f (usa) 908 322 8715 www.CHECKMi.com Semantically Smart Compendiums [AOL] IM CarlCHECKMi
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