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RE: subject indicators ... ?

From: Stella Dextre Clarke <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:14:37 +0100
To: "'Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) '" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>, <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Message-ID: <001001c4ac5e$da503790$0300000a@DELL>

Just trying to catch up with this one. I guess such a property could be
useful. The purpose seems to be to point to the place where you can find
out the most authoritative information available about a concept. I
begin to wonder whether the name should involve something like "source"
or "authority", although I don't have any objection to "indicator",
except perhaps that it is vague. I can't point to any existing
convention for what people tend to call this type of property, since it
is a fairly new way of doing things. I see it as perhaps a way of
providing added value to the traditional thesaurus model, and time will
tell whether and how people find it useful. ( It's not easy trying to
make up standards in advance of precedents!)

Stella Dextre Clarke
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-----Original Message-----
From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, AJ
Sent: 06 October 2004 14:22
To: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
Subject: FW: subject indicators ... ?

>AJM said:
Also I wasn't talking about identifying concepts in relation to *someone
elses* indicators, although this would be a possibility [with the
implication that (?x skos:indicator ?i) (?y skos:indicator ?i) -> (?x
skos-map:exactMatch ?y)].

So I just realised that, if allowed to be used in this way, of course a
'skos:indicator' type property *should not* be an IFP.

An alternative name has been suggested to me, something involving the
word 'indicative' ... e.g. 'indicativeRepresentation'
'indicativeResource' ... just throwing ideas out, hoping to work towards
a name that reflects well the intended usage.

Alistair Miles
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Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Leonard Will
> Sent: 05 October 2004 16:49
> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: Re: subject indicators ... ?
> In message
> <350DC7048372D31197F200902773DF4C05E50C6E@exchange11.rl.ac.uk>
>  on Tue, 5 
> Oct 2004, "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk> wrote
> >The idea I had for a 'skos:indicator' property is that it
> points to a
> >web resource that consists of a *complete* description of
> the concept.
> >This should include labels, definitions, examples, etc.
> where present.
> I would think that the only place you would find a suitable
> *complete* 
> description would be within a knowledge organisation scheme that had 
> been compiled in accordance with the standards that you are 
> using. Are 
> you then just in the situation of borrowing elements from 
> other KOSs - 
> i.e. merging or mapping?
> >Such a 'skos:indicator' property would also provide an
> alternative to
> >resolvable URIs for concepts ... i.e. you can have a concept with a
> >non-resolvable URI, and if you are looking for a complete 
> >(content-negotiable) description of that concept, you look up the 
> >'indicator'.
> What could an "indicator" be if it pointed to a web resource
> but was not 
> a URI? I thought that a URI was a general name for something that 
> pointed to a web resource.
> I'm not sure what you mean by "content-negotiable".
> Leonard
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