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Re: Fixed Format EPUB all seem to fail WCAG 2.1 SC 1.4.10

From: Liam R. E. Quin <liam@fromoldbooks.org>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 16:53:33 -0400
Message-ID: <3b9f6bfba1a6e90c0626f78e37fe7e4bb4ea6ba0.camel@fromoldbooks.org>
To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <dr.o.hoffmann@gmx.de>, public-epub3@w3.org
On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 12:11 +0200, Dr. Olaf Hoffmann wrote:
> Hello,
> wouldn't it already be a solution to allow fixed layout only as an
> alternative stylesheet and to require, that the complete information
> of an EPUB content document is available even with scripting and
> styling switched off?

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t legislate kindness.

Many early “fixed layout” books were magazines using bitmap images,
e.g. originally made for the iPad. There’s not necessarily any
“complete information” in them, short of using OCR.

So the result is that people add dummy information, lorem ipsum, your
browser isn’t capable, if you force them to add content they don’t

You do say,

> Obviously for SVG content documents there is no primary reflowable
> variant, but with elements title, desc, metadata there is a text
> alternative available 

and that may be true but not very useful.

For new books going forward, epubcheck could maybe do more.

> My observation with a test book with (long) poems is anyway, that
> especially viewers with some interpretation of fixed layout have
> problems to present fixed layout documents,

For sure. Actually if HTML/CSS had better support for poetry you might
not need fixed layout here, but there would always be other examples.

What’s needed is responsive ebooks and responsive, accessible, SVG.


Liam Quin, https://www.delightfulcomputing.com/
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