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Re: Image bleeds and page backgroud

From: Gribben, Andrew <Andrew.Gribben@hmhco.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 14:06:06 +0000
To: "public-epub3@w3.org" <public-epub3@w3.org>
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Hi Elie

That's a great idea.

Andrew Gribben
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On 6 June 2017 at 14:30:56, Elie Mietkiewicz (mietkiewicz@gutenberg-technology.net<mailto:mietkiewicz@gutenberg-technology.net>) wrote:

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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for sharing these samples. Full bleed images indeed allow nice layout :)

I have a more generic suggestion: why don't we create an "advanced author" attribute which simply remove the automatic margin and let the author decide to apply margin (or not!) for text, images but also videos or custom JS interactivities. Applying this automatic margin limit the reflowable epub to very basic layout whereas HTML5 & CSS3 allow incredible things!



Elie Mietkiewicz
Product Manager, in charge of epub standard

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2017-06-01 19:15 GMT+02:00 Gribben, Andrew <Andrew.Gribben@hmhco.com<mailto:Andrew.Gribben@hmhco.com>>:
Rather than wait until the next call, I figured I'd share this out now in the hope that it gives some talking points if nothing else.

I've uploaded a few single page samples of (non-HMH) content that required support for full bleed images and backgrounds and where we ended up using our own fork of Readium to support it. I find lot of digital textbook designers want to do the same and without a way to do so their designs tend to be a bit more bland than they otherwise could be. (That's not always a bad thing).


Andrew Gribben

On 30 May 2017 at 16:09:58, Dave Cramer (dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>) wrote:

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Hi Everyone,

We will have the second virtual meeting of the EPUB 3 Community Group on Thursday, June 1 at 1600 UTC, which is:

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[1] Update on recent and future events (Dave)

[2] Education task force. Call for volunteers to organize and lead this work. What are the next steps?

[3] A11y task force. Call for volunteers to organize and lead this work. What are the next steps?

[4] Rendering and image bleeds. See https://github.com/w3c/publ-cg/wiki/Rendering<https://github.com/w3c/publ-cg/wiki/Rendering> and https://github.com/w3c/publ-cg/issues/3<https://github.com/w3c/publ-cg/issues/3>. How might such a feature be designed? How can we work with reading system developers on this?


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