Re: [FXLA11Y] Fixed Layout Accessibility Taskforce Agenda - 18 April 2023

Got to it from another device – VPNs don’t like you…

So it’s a centralized database of image metadata…Seems like the wrong approach on a number of levels.

1 – Centralization has a lot of legal and practical concerns, especially outside the US
2 – I don’t see how the data is useful when it is not connected in any way (that I can tell) to the actual asset.  The goal should be, instead, to get the data embedded into the assets – using modern approaches such as XMP and the new IPTC schemas for accessibility (https://iptc.org/news/iptc-announces-new-properties-in-photo-metadata-to-make-images-more-accessible/)
3 – It’s not clear how the data is to actually be used.  Are people expected to write their own applications, to the AirTable API, to search/retrieve the data?  At that times?  Are there any restrictions to doing so – geography, source domains, costs, etc??

That’s just my initial thoughts after a few minutes reading the document.

Leonard

From: Ken Jones <ken@circularsoftware.com>
Date: Friday, April 14, 2023 at 2:30 PM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Cc: Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>, public-epub-wg@w3.org <public-epub-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [FXLA11Y] Fixed Layout Accessibility Taskforce Agenda - 18 April 2023

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It is reachable.
Others are reaching it.
Maybe you have a security restriction?

Please contact me directly if you need help.
Thanks
Ken


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On 14 Apr 2023, at 19:22, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com> wrote:

Site not reachable ☹

https://circular.software/SIDD


From: Ken Jones <ken@circularsoftware.com>
Date: Friday, April 14, 2023 at 2:20 PM
To: Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>
Cc: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, public-epub-wg@w3.org <public-epub-wg@w3.org>
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Simple Image Descriptions Database<https://circular.software/SIDD>
circular.software<https://circular.software/SIDD>

Here’s what we have so far…

Thanks
Ken



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On 14 Apr 2023, at 18:40, Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com> wrote:

We’ll reschedule that portion of the meeting, but continue with the rest. In the meantime are there any materials we can review?

-Wendy

From: Ken Jones <ken@circularsoftware.com>
Date: Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:05 PM
To: Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>
Cc: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, public-epub-wg@w3.org <public-epub-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [FXLA11Y] Fixed Layout Accessibility Taskforce Agenda - 18 April 2023

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Hi Wendy

It is London Book Fair next week so I will be there at the Accessibility: Charting the Waters<https://www.publishers.org.uk/events/accessibility-charting-the-waters-at-london-book-fair/> seminar on the 18th.

Can I suggest we reschedule this please?

Thanks
Ken

Let’s meet up at London Book Fair 2023!<https://calendly.com/circularken/lbf>

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On 14 Apr 2023, at 17:45, Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com<mailto:wendy.reid@rakuten.com>> wrote:

@Ken Jones<mailto:ken@circularsoftware.com> – are there any resources you can provide?

From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
Date: Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:37 PM
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Is there any pre-read on this “SIDD” thing?

Leonard

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Hi all,

The FXL Accessibility Taskforce will be meeting Tuesday, April 18th at 9AM Boston time, or 13 UTC.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=FXL+Accessibility+Meeting+&iso=20230418T09&p1=250&ah=1


Agenda:

  1.  Reading order, Page Regions, introducing ‘SIDD’ (the Simple Image Descriptions Database) – Ken Jones
  2.  Accessible FXL Research Project from LIA [1]
  3.  What to do with the TF Work

[1] https://www.fondazionelia.org/en/research-and-development/accessible-fixed-layout-epubs-a-new-research-project-by-fondazione-lia/


Meeting information can be found here: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/8e109b5f-af50-43e9-ae99-9afff77b58bb/20230418T090000


See you all Tuesday,

Wendy