- From: MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 19:11:10 +0900
- To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Cc: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>, W3C Publishing Steering Committee <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>, W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>, W3C EPUB 3 Working Group <public-epub-wg@w3.org>, 村田真 <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
- Message-ID: <CALvn5ECpNvMb2jtHfqYgw4GDEjvtvVkwaxXFC2Up3T8J9EXjCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Ivan, Thank you. Do you plan to attend the JWG7 meeting? You are the liaison from W3C to JWG7. Regards, Makoto 2021年5月9日(日) 16:03 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>: > Hi Makoto, > > the answer I have received is that the agreement with JTC1 and is valid > for any SC and WG in JTC1. W3C is qualified to PROPOSE moving EPUB 3.3 to > be balloted as a JTC1 standard when it has reached Recommendation status. > There is still a process to go through that ballot, which needs to be > handled carefully so we do not lose editorial control, but these are > details (and we have precedence). > > However, this is not for now; EPUB 3.3 is not planned to be a > Recommendation before 2023, at least per charter. > > Cheers > > Ivan > > > On 7 May 2021, at 13:05, MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have not seen the agreement between W3C and JTC1, > but from what I have heard in SC34, PAS submissions > from W3C appear to be maintained by JTC1 directly rather > than SC34/JWG7. Is this true? > > Regards, > Makoto > > 2021年5月7日(金) 19:11 <kerscher@montana.com>: > >> I agree, and I think to use the PAS process, the spec must be a >> recommendation. I do think it helps in adoption in some countries if it is >> an ISO spec. We might consider timing; if we believe EPUB 3.3 is going to >> make it to a rec, we can introduce the draft to ISO so that once it is a >> rec it will not take as long for it to be confirmed as an ISO standard. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> >> *Sent:* Friday, May 7, 2021 2:25 AM >> *To:* Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org> >> *Cc:* W3C Publishing Steering Committee <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>; >> W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>; MURATA < >> eb2mmrt@gmail.com>; W3C EPUB 3 Working Group <public-epub-wg@w3.org> >> *Subject:* Re: ISO SC 34/JWG 7, new work item for digital publications? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7 May 2021, at 10:15, Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Makoto is raising the good question; this is also what I felt seing the >> message from the ISO people, its meaning was more or less "Is JWG7 an empty >> shell"? >> >> >> >> If we look at it pragmatically >> >> - The work on the EPUB Accessibilty spec is done >> >> - The work on LCP is done (ISO TS 23078-2) >> >> - Web Publications is not a good candidate by lack of adoption >> >> - and we can also argue that W3C Audiobooks has not seen a sufficient >> adoption so far to be a good candidate. >> >> >> >> Therefore it seems to me that JWG7 is indeed an empty shell until EPUB >> 3.3 is a W3C recommendation. >> >> >> >> It indeed looks like it… and I am not sure whether and what we can do >> about it:-( >> >> >> >> Ivan >> >> >> >> >> >> Laurent >> >> >> >> Le 7 mai 2021 à 09:40, MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> >> >> Ivan, >> >> >> >> Do we want to keep JWG7 alive? If we do not create >> >> new work items for JWG7, it will be disbanded eventually. >> >> EPUB 3.3 is not going to be a new work item for JWG7 in >> >> the near future. >> >> >> >> I would like to hear what people have to say. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Makoto >> >> >> >> 2021年5月7日(金) 15:49 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>: >> >> Makoto, >> >> >> >> yes, indeed, W3C can use the PAS procedure to publish, when the time >> comes, EPUB 3.3. The only thing I was saying that this was never really >> discussed so far and no decision has been taken It may be an issue that has >> to be picked up by the Steering Committee. We are well ahead of time here; >> after all, the REC version of EPUB 3.3 is still more than a year away… >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Ivan >> >> >> >> On 6 May 2021, at 21:44, MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Unlike IDPF, W3C can use the PAS procedure for creating >> >> an ISO/IEC standard, if my understanding is correct. This >> >> is a *big* change. It has impacts on the maintenance process >> >> as well. We should carefully study what has been agreed >> >> between W3C and ISO/IEC about the PAS procedure. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Makoto >> >> >> >> 2021年5月7日(金) 3:29 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>: >> >> >> Laurent, >> >> > >> > I suppose EPUB 3.3 will be proposed as an ISO standard when it is >> finalized. Is it the case? >> >> I don't think there is any decision or commitment on this. >> >> Ivan >> >> >> >> > By curiosity, is there any other *new* work item planned for ISO >> standardization? >> > >> > Best regards >> > Laurent >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授 >> >> 村田 真 >> >> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +33 6 52 46 00 43 >> ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授 >> >> 村田 真 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +33 6 52 46 00 43 >> ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704 >> >> >> > > > -- > -- > 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授 > 村田 真 > > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +33 6 52 46 00 43 > ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704 > > -- -- 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授 村田 真
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