Re: EOCred: Person hasQualification EOCredential

Similar to the discussion on "recognizedBy", structuring the relationship
directly between a Person (a recognized entity) and the general definition
of the credential as it applies to anybody doesn't just avoid the the scope
of verifiable assertions, it prevents us from describing the verifiable
assertions a Person may hold through this structure.

This property would only be useful within a trust relationship between a
data producer and consumer. That doesn't mean it's completely unuseful, it
just has very limited scope.

Nate

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:03 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> I think this is a fair point that Dan raises: if there are no clear use
> cases for consuming structured data about a person's qualifications then it
> might be best to tread lightly when it comes to describing people.
>
> Phil
>
> On 21/05/18 22:07, Dan Brickley wrote:
>
> Thanks. Are there any projects, organizations, tools etc lined up to use
> this? (eg Vivo maybe, seems along their lines?)
>
> Person-describing data comes with some complexities...
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2018, 13:22 Phil Barker, <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> We have a use case for
>> Personal Self-promotion: Describing awarded/achieved qualifications...
>> https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases
>>
>> I'm thinking of all the university and professional profile pages which
>> information about what degrees a person has.
>>
>> Sent from TypeApp <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=13028>
>> On May 21, 2018, at 20:20, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can see the appeal, but what's the usecase for this as a markup?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 May 2018, 08:12 Phil Barker, < phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, with the recent discussion re-affirming that our work is
>>>> essentially about unverified assertions still in mind, I'ld like to test
>>>> the waters for a property of Person allowing us to express that a Person
>>>> has an Education Occutpational Credential
>>>>
>>>> property name: hasQualification
>>>> definition: an unverified assertion that the person has a qualification
>>>> domain incl.: Person
>>>> range incl: EducationalOccupationalCredential
>>>>
>>>> I chose the name hasQualification to mirror the property qualifications
>>>> <http://schema.org/qualifications> of Occupation and JobPosting, and
>>>> to avoid any confusion with credentials as verified claims, but I'm open
>>>> changing it if there is a strong feeling in favour of an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Phil
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> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning;
> information systems for education.
> CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for
> innovation in education technology.
>
> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company,
> number SC569282.
> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in
> England number OC399090
>