Re: EOWG - Understanding Docs Review Team from Bakken, Brent on 2018-07-13 (public-eo-archive@w3.org from July to September 2018)

From: Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 12:19:50 -0500
To: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@paciellogroup.com>
Cc: Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org>, "Rochford, John" <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>, EO Archive <public-eo-archive@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CAE6qf-HmTz37UNuHkKMb0QdJHB=F48yb3Jg1gGX17Bz5aTg-uw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Jeanne,

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I now have a good understanding of
the approach you are taking. Yes, I think there was a little confusion.

Your plan makes good sense and Sharron and I are willing to help along the
way when we can in regards to EO support and contribution. We would be
happy to share revised content with you. There will actually be a process
put in place for the content revisions that we recommend to then be
reviewed by AGWG and accepted. I am assuming that once that happens, you
could use that language. If there is a different way in which this can all
work, we are happy to figure it out with you so that you have some sample
content to use in your prototyping efforts.

Instead of you both joining our review team meeting next Friday (which I
see is for a different purpose than what you are working on now), maybe you
can meet with Sharron and I to discuss more detail around what you are
doing and how our EO work could possibly lend a hand. Let me know if you
would like us to arrange a time to meet.

Thanks,
Brent



Brent A. Bakken
Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services
Psychometrics & Testing Services
*Pearson*

512 202 1087
brent.bakken@pearson.com





On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Jeanne Spellman <
jspellman@paciellogroup.com> wrote:

> Hi EOers,
>
> I would just like to clarify that Silver is NOT rewriting the
> Understanding docs in plain language.  Silver is currently running an
> experiment to rewrite the WCAG success criteria in plain language.
>
> I think the confusion came from my explanation to John that we want to
> move the WCAG content over to Silver in the fall, but I meant success
> criteria, not the associated documents.
>
> Since we expect that most of the WCAG guidance will still be valid for
> Silver, the need to be able to explain the guidance in plain language will
> not be going away.  But we don't expect to be working on that part of the
> Silver project for quite some time -- 2019 at the earliest.
>
> But since we now know that EO is working on the Understanding documents in
> plain language, we would like permission to "borrow" some of your text to
> use in our prototypes. Real plain language guidance makes a prototype
> easier to test than lorum ipsum and imagination.  :)
>
> While I am happy to coordinate with Norah, I don't think we will need
> close coordination until we actually start work on the Silver content.
> Currently, we are only working on structure of Silver, not the content. Any
> content we are discussing is only for user testing of prototypes. We don't
> anticipate being able to work on new content until Q4 at the earliest, with
> Q2 2019 being more likely.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jeanne
>
>
>
> On 7/13/2018 11:26 AM, Sharron Rush wrote:
>
>> Hi Brent,
>>
>> Thank you for this clear outline of expectations. I was speaking with
>> John Rochford earlier his week and he let me know that he and Jeanne
>> Spellman are rewriting the new Understand docs in plain language. It makes
>> sense for me for all of us to get in sync so we do not duplicate effort.
>>
>> Jeanne and John for your information, Norah Sinclair (copied here) is
>> leading a small group from EO to review and recommend edits to the
>> Understanding docs. They are working through GitHub and we would be happy
>> for you to join the next group call (see schedule below.)
>>
>> Cheers all,
>> Sharron
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com
>> <mailto:brent.bakken@pearson.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello Review Team,
>>
>>     I know that many of you saw this in the email I sent out yesterday,
>>     but I just wanted to resend to this small group again today just to
>>     be sure everyone understands the timelines and task for this
>>     upcoming week. (And thank you to those of you who have already
>>     started!!!)
>>
>>     I have added some *review deadlines to the first two understanding
>>     documents* that Norah has assigned us to review. I would like these
>>     two reviews complete by end of day Friday, 20 July. Please set aside
>>     time this weekend or next week to thoroughly review the two
>>     following documents and provide feedback using the two GitHub issues
>>     that Norah has already created.
>>
>>     *Two Notes on reviewing:*
>>
>>      1. Once you read through the current understanding document, you
>>         may want to review the GitHub issue *before* you start adding
>>         more to the thread in case others have already raised your edit
>>         issue. That way you can support their comment, or add to the
>>         recommended edit.
>>      2. If you don't like the way something is worded in the
>>         understanding document, please indicate so, but also when
>>         possible, go the extra mile to offer a suggested rewording that
>>         Norah can work from when making edits. As a reminder, this is
>>         how the review process will work: Overview of Process
>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> w3.org_WAI_EO_wiki_Understanding-5Fdocs-23Overview&d=DwIDaQ&
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>>
>>
>>     *Here is this week's assignment:*
>>
>>       * Review and comment on 1.4.10 Reflow
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>> w3.org_WAI_EO_wiki_Understanding-5Fdocs-23Understanding-5F1.
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>>         by *Friday, 20 July* (hard deadline)
>>       * Review and comment on 1.4.11 Non-Text Contrast
>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> w3.org_WAI_EO_wiki_Understanding-5Fdocs-23Understanding-5F1.
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>>         by *Friday, 20 July* (hard deadline)
>>
>>     (If you have extra time, begin reviews of 1.4.12, 1.4.13, and 4.1.3
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>>     - These will have due dates assigned in future weeks.)
>>
>>     Thank you all for helping to make these understanding documents more
>>     "understandable".  :)
>>
>>     Brent
>>
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>>     *__*
>>
>>     Brent A. Bakken
>>     Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services
>>     Psychometrics & Testing Services
>>     *Pearson*
>>
>>     512 202 1087
>>     brent.bakken@pearson.com <mailto:brent.bakken@pearson.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sharron Rush | Executive Director | Knowbility.org | @knowbility
>> /Equal access to technology for people with disabilities/
>>
>
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