- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:32:45 +0100
- To: Victoria Menezes Miller <menezesmiller@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Bakken, Brent" <brent.bakken@pearson.com>, public-eo-archive@w3.org, Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org>, "Wise, Charlotte" <cwise@visa.com>, Robert Jolly <robert@knowbility.org>, Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@gmail.com>, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>, "Sinclair, Norah M" <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>
Hi Vicki, So if I understand you correctly, you are proposing to create this new page instead of the slides (at least until they are updated)? That approach would work for me. I would just suggest to also add the information on "relevance of the WAI guidelines", which is useful too. Best, Shadi On 07/12/2017 13:23, Victoria Menezes Miller wrote: > Hi, Shadi, > > Thanks a lot - that was very quick, indeed! There is *a lot of > interesting information in the presentation *and having cut out the > broken links etc., *it is really good*. > > In answer to your question on whether to continue to update these > slides, I feel that given the *overall work load *with the re-design, I > don't think we have time now to update it but I would certainly put it > on the "Next to do" in the context of this topic. It would be good to > hear what others feel in this respect. > > With this well-improved and interesting resource, I have a further set > of questions and thoughts, as given below: > > * How do we link to it? Can we link to it *without *the (historical) > overview page entitled "Instructions for the Web Accessibility Older > Users Presentation"? > * The title is "Web Accessibility for Older Users Presentation" which > doesn't say too much about the content. Can we change the title > without "offending" any parties and link it from the main overview > page? > * Do we keep the "Instructions" overview page linked up or do we keep > it in available but in an archive (historical) approach (similar to > WAI-AGE information)? > > Considering the questions above, and in order*to save time*, I would > like to *propose to our Review Team *that: > > (a) We keep the presentations page, keep the updated version of > Shadi, keep the historical version of WAI-AGE (as linked up in > Shadi's updated version);; > (b) In order to make the information "more reachable" (as in the > current link path, it is two levels deep and the title does not > necessarily provide an insight into the content), we create a page > called "*Ageing and changing abilities*" which would contain the > updated statistical information (see attached Word file). This page > would be linked up under the description of declining age-related > problems which is currently found under "Overlapping needs..." > (link: > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Overlapping_Needs:_Older_Users_and_Disabled_Users ) > or, alternatively, we combine the information under "Overlapping > needs" and the attached Word file. > > *Review Team: *For your consideration and comments on the above proposal > points (a) and (b). > > > Best, > > Vicki > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org > <mailto:shadi@w3.org>> wrote: > > [added Norah who I believe was present on the previous call] > > Hi Vicki, all, > > Please find attached a revised version of the Older People slides, > with the changes I had described during the call (removed > demographics, most external links, and descriptions of the WAI-AGE > Project). > > The idea is to archive the current 2010 version of the slides, then > this new 2017 version refers to it as background. I think the > content that is now in the 2017 version is quite stable and valid today. > > I hope the HTML attachment is not too clunky and you can all read > it. The specific question now is: is this approach worthwhile to > continue, or do people feel we should stop work on these slides. > > Best, > Shadi > > > On 01/12/2017 14:20, Bakken, Brent wrote: > > Thanks for sending this recap Vicki. Adding public-eo-archive > for records. > > *__* > > > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Victoria Menezes Miller > <menezesmiller@gmail.com <mailto:menezesmiller@gmail.com> > <mailto:menezesmiller@gmail.com > <mailto:menezesmiller@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > Dear Charlotte, Brent, Norah, Robert, Shadi, Andrew, and > [Shawn], > > We shall have a discussion on the Older Resources pages > this afternoon. > > In this respect, some additional minor changes have been > done to the > following resources, as follows: > > *Main "overview" page:* > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understanding_Older_Web_Users > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understanding_Older_Web_Users> > > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understanding_Older_Web_Users > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understanding_Older_Web_Users>> > > * I shifted a sentence found after the bulleted list (2nd > level > heading "Overlapping needs...") back to end of the first > paragraph. The shifted sentence reads "By applying > international guidelines...etc." _Rationale for the > shift in > position_: after looking at the page with some "gap" in > between, it seemed more logical to place the sentence > there. > * In the bulleted list where the Literature Review and > WAI-AGE is > mentioned, I added that WAI-AGE ended on 30 September 2010 > * Decision for this afternoon: concerning WAI-AGE. At > the end of > the page, there is a paragraph on WAI-AGE 2010. Should > this be > removed entirely and a link placed to the WAI-AGE page > at the > bullet point where the Literature Review is mentioned > or do you > want to keep the paragraph on WAI-AGE? > * Last call for any further changes/suggestions to this > resource. > > *Literature Review page:* > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction> > > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction>> > The following minor changes were made: > > * changes of verb to past tense where applicable as > regards WAI-AGE > * added that the project WAI-AGE ended on 30 September 2010 > * Last call for any further changes to this resource > > *Presentation page:* > https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/ > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/> > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/ > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/>>* > * > > * Decision for this afternoon: Do we keep the > presentation page > with mention that it will be updated in due course or do we > remove it? > > Wiki page with history of changes on Older Users Resources: > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources> > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources>> > > Looking forward to discussing, > > Best, > > Vicki > > > > > > -- > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ > <http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/> > Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist > Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > > -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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