- From: Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:59:22 -0500
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- Cc: "Sinclair, Norah M" <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, "public-eo-archive@w3.org" <public-eo-archive@w3.org>
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Just saw this now. Thanks Shawn. Brent A. Bakken Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services Pearson 512 202 1087 brent.bakken@pearson.com Learn more at pearson.com [image: Pearson] On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> wrote: > Hi Norah, > > All of the information should be public. You can find it by searching. > (That's what I did for the others. :-) > > I did some searching tonight to get you started. :-) > * Requirements from 2009 revisions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/chan > gelogs/cl-PWD-Use-Web > * Looks like title discussions happened in 2010, so you can find relevant > minutes with this is in search engines: > site:w3.org/2010 EOWG minutes title how people with disabilities > use the web > For example, I found some of the title discussions here: > ** https://www.w3.org/2010/08/27-eo-minutes#topic4 > ** right *above* https://www.w3.org/2010/10/29-eo-minutes#item03 (that > is, scroll up from there :) > > (Links to all old EOWG minutes are here <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Min > utes#y2010>.) > > Shadi might have other information or pointers related to the titles of > the pages. > > Best, > ~Shawn > > > > On 8/30/2017 5:00 PM, Sinclair, Norah M wrote: > >> Thanks Brent, this is great. I looked at the example you sent. Are there >> previous requirements documents to link to and the email thread you mention >> with previous discussions on name changes? If Shawn has access to that >> information and wants to create the github issues so the group can begin >> brainstorming this, that works. I am happy to assist in whatever way to >> move the discussion along. >> >> >> *Norah Sinclair * >> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist >> ** >> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center >> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design >> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 >> >> phone 404.894.7432 >> www.amacusg.org <http://www.amacusg.org/> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:14 PM >> *To:* Sinclair, Norah M; public-eo-archive@w3.org >> *Subject:* Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions >> and content questions >> [including public-eo-archive@w3.org <mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org>] >> >> Hi Norah, >> Thank you so much for your thoughts on this. This is a great start. One >> key thing that may or may not have been evident from the navigation >> spreadsheet was that the names that were listed as alternative new names >> are more of a suggestion to get brainstorming started rather than a >> "proposal" of what to switch to. >> >> So, When you add these two GitHub issues in, I would state the following >> concepts in the issue (in your own words of course)... >> >> * we need to think about changing the current name of the particular >> page in the resource >> * have people visit the page and read the content prior to making >> comments in the issue >> * you provide the suggested optional name as a means to start the >> brainstorming >> * provide a rationale to support the suggested name >> >> Doing this will help others follow suite and provide support for other >> name suggestions along with rationale for you to consider. >> >> I know that some of these names of these resources had some discussion in >> previous EOWG meetings years ago (before my time) it would be nice to find >> those minutes and post them as well. I am hoping someone can add that to >> the issue thread once we get it started. >> >> Here is an example of a recent similar issue that Shawn started for the >> "Essential Components of Web Accessibility" resource. You can pattern yours >> after this one if you like (title/name issue #1 < >> https://github.com/w3c/wai-components/issues/1>) adding more context to >> yours as you see fit. >> >> If you think you can get these two issues posted prior to the meeting on >> Friday, I will also add them to the agenda and Shawn and I will get people >> started thinking about them along with the others that we are doing the >> same thing for. Just let me know when you add them and I will update the >> agenda if possible. >> >> I hope this helps. Thank you so much fo keeping at it. You are Awesome. >> Brent >> >> *__* >> >> Brent A. Bakken >> Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services >> Pearson >> >> 512 202 1087 >> brent.bakken@pearson.com <mailto:brent.bakken@pearson.com> >> >> Learn more at pearson.com <http://pearson.com> >> Pearson >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Sinclair, Norah M < >> norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu <mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Brent, >> >> >> Thanks for this information. I apologize that I have not sent this >> out to reviewers yet. I was out for a couple of days and am catching up. I >> am working on adding the github issues now. >> >> >> Do the following work as github issues to send to the reviewers for >> feedback as you suggested? >> >> >> Rename Diversity of Web Users >> Two of the resources that are part of the larger "How People with >> Disabilities Use the Web" resource need to be renamed. On the proposed >> navigation document, "Diversity of Web Users" is listed as "Diverse >> Abilities and Disabilities". What are the reviewers thoughts on this >> proposed title? Are there other suggestions? >> >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity < >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity> >> >> >> Rename Diversity in Web Use >> The second resource that is part of "How People with Disabilities Use >> the Web" is currently titled "Diversity in Web Use" and also needs to be >> renamed. On the proposed navigation document, "Diversity in Web Use" is >> listed as "Tools and Techniques People Use". What are the reviewers >> thoughts on this proposed title? Are there other suggestions? >> >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/browsing < >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/browsing> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Norah >> >> >> *Norah Sinclair * >> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist >> ** >> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center >> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design >> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 >> >> phone 404.894.7432 <tel:(404)%20894-7432> >> www.amacusg.org <http://www.amacusg.org/> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com <mailto: >> brent.bakken@pearson.com>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:30 AM >> *To:* Sinclair, Norah M >> *Cc:* Shadi Abou-Zahra; Sylvie Duchateau; Sharron Rush; shawn@w3.org >> <mailto:shawn@w3.org> >> *Subject:* Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned >> revisions and content questions >> Hi Norah, >> >> Thank you so much for pulling this recommendation together. Actually, >> the two pages of the resource that you pointed out needing name changes are >> on my list to communicate with you about needing the changes. You beat me >> to it! >> >> I am glad that you have already put some good thought into the new >> names. We are trying to work through about 5 resources that need to have >> this complete before we start our usability testing of the site redesign >> navigation in mid-September. Because of that, it would be good if you could >> prioritize the task of nailing down the new names for those two pages >> sometime prior to September 8th so we can feed that information to the >> person setting up the site for the usability testing. >> >> The best way to get started would be to add your recommendation (with >> a short rationale) for each page as a new issue in the resources GitHub >> repository. This will make it easy for you to get feedback. You can just >> add each as a new issue here on the issues page < >> https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web/issues>. Once you have the new >> issues entered for those two pages, you can send out the issue links to the >> full review team (listed below) and ask for quick feedback so that you can >> work up a final recommendation for EO. I would give the review team a >> deadline for feedback so that you receive it sooner rather than later. >> >> If you do not feel comfortable enough with GitHub to add the issues, >> Shawn mentioned that she would be happy to add them for you. I know you >> have responded to issues previously, so I am assuming that you are okay >> with creating two new ones and sending out the links asking for feedback. >> >> Let me know if you need any assistance or have any other ideas on >> this topic that I can help you with. >> >> Review Team: >> >> * Shadi - shadi@w3.org <mailto:shadi@w3.org> >> * Sylvie - sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr <mailto: >> sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr> >> * James - jgreen@visa.com <mailto:jgreen@visa.com> >> * Sharron - srush@knowbility.org <mailto:srush@knowbility.org> >> * Jesús - jesus.pulido@amac.gatech.edu <http://amac.gatech.edu> >> * Shawn - shawn@w3.org <mailto:shawn@w3.org> >> >> >> Thanks again for working so diligently on this resource. >> Brent >> >> *__* >> >> Brent A. Bakken >> Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services >> Pearson >> >> 512 202 1087 <tel:(512)%20202-1087> >> brent.bakken@pearson.com <mailto:brent.bakken@pearson.com> >> >> Learn more at pearson.com <http://pearson.com> >> Pearson >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Sinclair, Norah M < >> norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu <mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> >> wrote: >> >> I apologize that I was not able to complete the survey before it >> closed yesterday. I agree that the names of the resources, Diversity of Web >> Users, Diversity in Web Use should be changed. The proposed revised titles, >> [Diverse Abilities and Disabilities] and [Tools and Techniques People Use] >> look like better options. I had not seen that information previously. >> >> >> *Norah Sinclair * >> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist >> ** >> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center >> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design >> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 >> >> phone 404.894.7432 <tel:(404)%20894-7432> >> www.amacusg.org <http://www.amacusg.org/> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org <mailto:shadi@w3.org>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:06 PM >> *To:* Sinclair, Norah M; Sylvie Duchateau; Bakken, Brent; Sharron >> Rush; shawn@w3.org <mailto:shawn@w3.org> >> *Subject:* Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned >> revisions and content questions >> Hi Norah, >> >> I agree that the other sections are more concise and have an >> active >> tone. I recall Sharron still had some concerns, especially with >> the >> principles page. I think it may be the current one-page >> presentation >> that is creating this perceived wall of text, so maybe your idea >> of >> adding graphics could help. I also don't know how the new WAI >> design >> addresses these types of pages in terms of information >> architecture. >> >> As to contacting CoGa, they already have been contacted maybe >> over a >> year ago meanwhile. While terminology and technology has moved >> most >> significantly in this area, I think also the other sections have >> aged >> and should probably be looked over by relevant experts. Not sure >> how >> this should be best approached, though. Maybe the chairs have >> ideas. >> >> Best, >> Shadi >> >> >> On 22/08/2017 20:58, Sinclair, Norah M wrote: >> > Hello Shadi, Sylvie, Brent, Sharron, and Shawn, >> > > The resource, “How People with Disabilities Use the >> Web,” consists of several in-depth pages, including Stories of Web Users, >> Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles. >> The co-editors are seeking to: >> > • Simplify & Tersify — Make content simple and brief. Cut >> words. Cut Sentences. >> > • Bullets & Graphics — Break up passages into bullets when >> appropriate. Suggest graphics. >> > • Front-loaded Action — Use active voice, and action statements. >> > > We have determined this process is needed for Stories >> of Web Users and we’ve agreed upon a draft format for the first story, >> which basically reduces the word count in half while conveying the >> important content from the original story. The other stories are currently >> being revised using the same type of approach. >> > > To me, the other resources, Diversity of Web Users, >> Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles may not be in need of the >> same type of revision (goal of reducing content by 50% or so). The content >> of these resources (Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and >> Accessibility Principles) is broken up into bullets, and is written using >> active, action statements. The main revision could be adding graphics or >> linking to the web perspective videos. What are the thoughts of the >> co-editors and EO chair review team on this? Would this be a good question >> to ask the reviewers for their feedback? >> > > Also, should the Cognitive and Learning Disabilities >> Accessibility Task Force (Cognitive A11Y TF) be consulted for suggested >> revisions to section: Examples of cognitive, learning, and neurological >> disabilities? >> > > https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity >> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity> >> > > Thanks very much, >> > Norah >> > > Norah Sinclair >> > Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist >> > > AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center >> > Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design >> > 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 >> > > phone 404.894.7432 <tel:(404)%20894-7432> >> > www.amacusg.org <http://www.amacusg.org><http: >> //www.amacusg.org/ <http://www.amacusg.org/>> >> > >> -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ < >> http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/> >> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist >> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) >> >> >> >>
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