Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions and content questions

Thanks Brent, this is great. I looked at the example you sent. Are there previous requirements documents to link to and the email thread you mention with previous discussions on name changes? If Shawn has access to that information and wants to create the github issues so the group can begin brainstorming this, that works. I am happy to assist in whatever way to move the discussion along.


Norah Sinclair
Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist

AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318

phone 404.894.7432
www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>


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From: Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:14 PM
To: Sinclair, Norah M; public-eo-archive@w3.org
Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions and content questions

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Hi Norah,
Thank you so much for your thoughts on this. This is a great start. One key thing that may or may not have been evident from the navigation spreadsheet was that the names that were listed as alternative new names are more of a suggestion to get brainstorming started rather than a "proposal" of what to switch to.

So, When you add these two GitHub issues in, I would state the following concepts in the issue (in your own words of course)...

  *   we need to think about changing the current name of the particular page in the resource
  *   have people visit the page and read the content prior to making comments in the issue
  *   you provide the suggested optional name as a means to start the brainstorming
  *   provide a rationale to support the suggested name

Doing this will help others follow suite and provide support for other name suggestions along with rationale for you to consider.

I know that some of these names of these resources had some discussion in previous EOWG meetings years ago (before my time) it would be nice to find those minutes and post them as well. I am hoping someone can add that to the issue thread once we get it started.

Here is an example of a recent similar issue that Shawn started for the "Essential Components of Web Accessibility" resource. You can pattern yours after this one if you like (title/name issue #1<https://github.com/w3c/wai-components/issues/1>) adding more context to yours as you see fit.

If you think you can get these two issues posted prior to the meeting on Friday, I will also add them to the agenda and Shawn and I will get people started thinking about them along with the others that we are doing the same thing for. Just let me know when you add them and I will update the agenda if possible.

I hope this helps. Thank you so much fo keeping at it. You are Awesome.
Brent



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On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Sinclair, Norah M <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu<mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> wrote:

Hi Brent,


Thanks for this information. I apologize that I have not sent this out to reviewers yet. I was out for a couple of days and am catching up. I am working on adding the github issues now.


Do the following work as github issues to send to the reviewers for feedback as you suggested?

Rename Diversity of Web Users
Two of the resources that are part of the larger "How People with Disabilities Use the Web" resource need to be renamed. On the proposed navigation document,  "Diversity of Web Users" is listed as "Diverse Abilities and Disabilities". What are the reviewers thoughts on this proposed title? Are there other suggestions?

https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity


Rename Diversity in Web Use
The second resource that is part of "How People with Disabilities Use the Web" is currently titled "Diversity in Web Use" and also needs to be renamed. On the proposed navigation document, "Diversity in Web Use" is listed as "Tools and Techniques People Use". What are the reviewers thoughts on this proposed title? Are there other suggestions?

https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/browsing


Thanks,

Norah


Norah Sinclair
Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist

AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318

phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>


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From: Bakken, Brent <brent.bakken@pearson.com<mailto:brent.bakken@pearson.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:30 AM
To: Sinclair, Norah M
Cc: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Sylvie Duchateau; Sharron Rush; shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>
Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions and content questions

Hi Norah,

Thank you so much for pulling this recommendation together. Actually, the two pages of the resource that you pointed out needing name changes are on my list to communicate with you about needing the changes. You beat me to it!

I am glad that you have already put some good thought into the new names. We are trying to work through about 5 resources that need to have this complete before we start our usability testing of the site redesign navigation in mid-September. Because of that, it would be good if you could prioritize the task of nailing down the new names for those two pages sometime prior to September 8th so we can feed that information to the person setting up the site for the usability testing.

The best way to get started would be to add your recommendation (with a short rationale) for each page as a new issue in the resources GitHub repository. This will make it easy for you to get feedback. You can just add each as a new issue here on the issues page<https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web/issues>. Once you have the new issues entered for those two pages, you can send out the issue links to the full review team (listed below) and ask for quick feedback so that you can work up a final recommendation for EO. I would give the review team a deadline for feedback so that you receive it sooner rather than later.

If you do not feel comfortable enough with GitHub to add the issues, Shawn mentioned that she would be happy to add them for you. I know you have responded to issues previously, so I am assuming that you are okay with creating two new ones and sending out the links asking for feedback.

Let me know if you need any assistance or have any other ideas on this topic that I can help you with.

Review Team:

  *   Shadi - shadi@w3.org<mailto:shadi@w3.org>
  *   Sylvie - sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr<mailto:sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr>
  *   James - jgreen@visa.com<mailto:jgreen@visa.com>
  *   Sharron - srush@knowbility.org<mailto:srush@knowbility.org>
  *   Jesús - jesus.pulido@amac.gatech.edu<http://amac.gatech.edu>
  *   Shawn - shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>

Thanks again for working so diligently on this resource.
Brent



Brent A. Bakken
Director, Accessibility Strategy & Education Services
Pearson


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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Sinclair, Norah M <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu<mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> wrote:

I apologize that I was not able to complete the survey before it closed yesterday. I agree that the names of the resources, Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use should be changed. The proposed revised titles, [Diverse Abilities and Disabilities] and [Tools and Techniques People Use] look like better options. I had not seen that information previously.


Norah Sinclair
Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist

AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318

phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>


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From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org<mailto:shadi@w3.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:06 PM
To: Sinclair, Norah M; Sylvie Duchateau; Bakken, Brent; Sharron Rush; shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>
Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions and content questions

Hi Norah,

I agree that the other sections are more concise and have an active
tone. I recall Sharron still had some concerns, especially with the
principles page. I think it may be the current one-page presentation
that is creating this perceived wall of text, so maybe your idea of
adding graphics could help. I also don't know how the new WAI design
addresses these types of pages in terms of information architecture.

As to contacting CoGa, they already have been contacted maybe over a
year ago meanwhile. While terminology and technology has moved most
significantly in this area, I think also the other sections have aged
and should probably be looked over by relevant experts. Not sure how
this should be best approached, though. Maybe the chairs have ideas.

Best,
   Shadi


On 22/08/2017 20:58, Sinclair, Norah M wrote:
> Hello Shadi, Sylvie, Brent, Sharron, and Shawn,
>
> The resource, “How People with Disabilities Use the Web,” consists of several in-depth pages, including Stories of Web Users, Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles. The co-editors are seeking to:
> • Simplify & Tersify — Make content simple and brief. Cut words. Cut Sentences.
> • Bullets & Graphics — Break up passages into bullets when appropriate. Suggest graphics.
> • Front-loaded Action — Use active voice, and action statements.
>
> We have determined this process is needed for Stories of Web Users and we’ve agreed upon a draft format for the first story, which basically reduces the word count in half while conveying the important content from the original story. The other stories are currently being revised using the same type of approach.
>
> To me, the other resources, Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles may not be in need of the same type of revision (goal of reducing content by 50% or so).  The content of these resources (Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles) is broken up into bullets, and is written using active, action statements. The main revision could be adding graphics or linking to the web perspective videos. What are the thoughts of the co-editors and EO chair review team on this? Would this be a good question to ask the reviewers for their feedback?
>
> Also, should the Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force (Cognitive A11Y TF) be consulted for suggested revisions to section: Examples of cognitive, learning, and neurological disabilities?
>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity
>
> Thanks very much,
> Norah
>
> Norah Sinclair
> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>
> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318
>
> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/>
>

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Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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