Re: W3C EGOV meeting, Monday 26 November 2012, 9:00 - 10:30 London time

> Paola, thank you very much for your interest. Where are you from?
>

I am a European :-)  No really, Italian passport, lived in UK, then Asia,
then UK, then Spain in the recent months, but generally no particular place

The meeting is in the context of Spain but, maybe you could be interested
> to try to promote/replicate this initiative in your country?
>

 I have been in Barcelona for two months,  and I tend to become a citizen
of the places where I reside

it only should be necessary to confirm about the limit of seating (from the
> group, and more exactly from the CMT, it has been sent an invitation to a
> little representation of every Regional Government, Ministry, and the FEMP
> -representation of local governments- in Spain, because unfortunately we
> have not too much space to the meeting (we have a little room). I don’t
> know if the limit of seating is full or not, but if you are working on Open
> Government/Data and you are interested, I can ask about it, It will be my
> pleasure. I think we are doing very interesting things.
>

No no, do not worry, thank you - not even sure I ll be there on the day,
but in general, is to have open meetings where people from related
workgroups interested in the topic  can walk in to. I have been working in
Open Gvt/data for years, worldwide, trying to identify the
universal dimensions which are common to all countries (la dimension
universal). When Europe 'unified' I started considering every single
country as 'my own', and generally like to learn from the local experience
(Barcelona is special in many ways), and also bring some knowledge with me
from the other countries where I live, and bridge the local with the global
dimension.
  I feel the need to try to capture the big emerging picture, and therefore
I am following activities in all countries simoultaneously .
I have many stories to tell. For example how the EU Digital Agenda which
starts in Brussels with an open invitation to all citizens in Europe to
participate, then is manipulated at local
level by the local politicians and their marketers who fill the agenda with
their propaganda (whatever projects and initiatives the local
administration wants Brussels to see). I am convinced that trough the
appropriate use of web based technologies the manipulation of political
institutions on behalf of the few can be reduced.

Would be great if you could just send us some note of what the meeting is
up to-
Thanks for offering to find a chair for me :-)

I am however, especially interested in studying  'paradoxes'.

For example,

1) are you aware that AccessInfo was fined 3000 Euros by the Spanish for
requesting access to public data?
http://www.access-info.org/en/spain-coalicion-pro-acceso/296-tribunal-supremo
any comments? (i ll pass your details to them just in case they are
interested)

2)  I lived for over six months in the Canary Islands, where I visited the
Mayor
to find out what they were doing in relation to open data, but they said
that no such thing exists in Spain and never got back to me. It is always
nice to learn about the local reality directly from the locals, as they
give a different picture than what their political representative, say the
local reality is .  etc etc

Keep us informed!

best

PDM





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> *De:* Andre Cusson [mailto:acusson@01COMMUNICATIONS.com]
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2012 21:09
> *Para:* Owen Ambur
> *CC:* 'Serafín Olcoz'; 'Tomasz Janowski'; public-egov-ig@w3.org;
> josema.alonso@fundacionctic.org; "''Carlos E. Jiménez Gómez'\\'"
> *Asunto:* Re: W3C EGOV meeting, Monday 26 November 2012, 9:00 - 10:30
> London time****
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> Hi Owen, Everyone,
>
> The ORBAC StratML document has been converted to StratML Part2 as well as
> added and rendered to its respective Web site (#1035+) on the StratML
> portal, at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ORBAC.html
>
> As usual, all StratML documents are also available for editing, in
> preloaded StratML Part2 forms, from the "Edit" link beside the
> corresponding entry in the alphabetical StratML document list at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html.
>
> The other StratML portal indexes have also been updated accordingly, as
> well as the stakeholders and statistics pages, respectively at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/stakeholders.html
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/statistics.html
>
> Regards,
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> Andre Cusson
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> Serafín, the decree is now available in StratML format at
> http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#ORBAC or, more specifically,
> http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ORBACwStyle.xml****
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>  ****
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> The following objectives are closely related to the purposes of the
> StratML standard <http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#DefinitionPurposes>:***
> *
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>  ****
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> Objective 6.1:
> <http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ORBACwStyle.xml#_2d21762a-35ed-11e2-8971-961b6274d297>Indicators
> - Define indicators to monitor and assess the impact of the openness and
> reuse of computer applications.****
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>  ****
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> It would be good if such indicators were published in open, standard,
> machine-readable StratML Part 2 format.****
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>  ****
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> Objective 6.2:
> <http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ORBACwStyle.xml#_2d2176f2-35ed-11e2-8971-961b6274d297>Reports
> - Publish reports analysing the indicators. ****
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>  ****
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> Likewise, it would be good if such analysis were published in StratML
> format.****
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>  ****
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> BTW, with reference to Objective 2.2.d:
> <http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ORBACwStyle.xml#_2d216ad6-35ed-11e2-8971-961b6274d297>Dependencies
> -[Explain] why the procurement involves any dependency on products
> belonging to third-party products, it seems to me the focus of the
> directive is too much on software applications and too little on data.
> Software programming logic should be fungible and subject to change,
> whereas data (records) should be persistent and based upon open standards
> (like StratML) … and not be burdened with **software** dependencies.****
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>  ****
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> Owen Ambur****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serafín Olcoz [mailto:olcoz@ej-gv.es <olcoz@ej-gv.es>]
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:12 PM
> To: Tomasz Janowski; public-egov-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: W3C EGOV meeting, Monday 26 November 2012, 9:00 - 10:30
> London time****
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> Dear all,****
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> Here is the Joinup link about our Decree:****
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>  ****
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> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms_foss/document/basque-openness-and-reu
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> se-decree-software-applications****
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>  ****
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> I have also prepared this presentation to be used by next Monday 26th on
> eGovernment WG meeting.****
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>  ****
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> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49911950/W3c%20-%20Open%20Assets.pdf****
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>  ****
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> Best regards,****
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>  ****
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> Serafin Olcoz****
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> PS: We have not finished yet the review of the Open Assets model
> description, this is the reason why the document  (including RDF****
>
> description) is still not available on the web but I hope it will be in a
> week or two as much. By beggning of December we¹ll also open OpenApps site
> including the distribution of its own source code among other source code
> apps distribution.****
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> El 20/11/12 12:27, "Tomasz Janowski" <tj@iist.unu.edu> escribió:****
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>  ****
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> > Dear All,****
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> > ****
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> > The next meeting of the group will take place as follows:****
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> > ****
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> > DATE - Monday 26 November 2012****
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> > TIME - 0900-1030 London time****
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> > TOPIC - Open Government Data****
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> > ANNOUNCEMENT****
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> > AGENDA (TENTATIVE)****
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> > - Open Data Kickoff (Tomasz Janowski)****
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> > - Open Knowledge Foundation (Rufus Pollock)****
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> > - Openness and Reuse of Public Sector Information using Open Data ****
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> > Publishing (Serafin Olcoz)****
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> > - Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions (Daniel Bennett)****
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> > - Call for session on open data at WWW 2013 (Tomasz Janowski) MINUTES **
> **
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> > UPDATES http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page#Upcoming_meetings****
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> > ****
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> > This will be the second meeting focusing on Open Government Data. We ***
> *
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> > warmly welcome expressions of interest to make short presentations ****
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> > about Open Government Data at this and future meetings of the group.****
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> > If you know about an initiative, experience, research findings, etc.****
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> > worth sharing, please present it to the group, encourage your ****
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> > colleagues to present, and contact Jeanne (jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov) *
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> > or Tomasz (tj@iist.unu.edu).****
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> > ****
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> > We will also need a member of the group to help scribe. This is ****
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> > essentially taking notes in the IRC chat during the teleconference to **
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> > capture the key points of the discussion. If you are able to scribe ****
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> > for the next or future meetings, please contact Tomasz or Jeanne.****
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> > ****
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> > Ways to connect: ****
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> > ****
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> > --Telecon line: Dial +1-617-761-6200 or ****
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> > sip:zakim@voip.w3.org<mailto:zakim@voip.w3.org> then conference code ***
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> > 3468#****
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> > ("EGOV#")****
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> > --W3C IRC channel #egov, see http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/ or use ****
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> > http://irc.w3.org/?channels=egov****
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> > --Scribe: (please volunteer, if you've done this before) --Group ****
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> > access via the W3C at http://www.w3.org/egov/ and also via LinkedIn at *
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> > the W3C eGovernment Interest Group:****
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> > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648&trk=hb_side_g****
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> > ****
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> > We look forward to talking with you on Monday...****
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> > ****
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> > Many regards,****
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> > ****
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> > Tomasz****
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> > ------------****
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> > Tomasz Janowski, PhD****
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> > Co-Chair, e-Government Interest Group, World Wide Web Consortium****
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