Re: Tools for eGovernance

Sorry for getting the spelling wrong
Please read Stratml instead of StrathML in my mails
(probably due to some kind of conditioning I must suffer from using the
university domain for some years strath.ac.uk).thanks HBGill for pinging
about spello
Cheers P

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>wrote:

> Andre, and Owen
>
> thank you very much for making the info available as StrathML and fo
> putting ISTCS on such a strategic map.
>  (I take it that the relevance to this thread is that some kind of xml
> such as StrathML is also a tool for organising eGovernance knowledge - in
> case someone is wondering why we are discussing this here)
>
> Just a thought- as feedback for A
>
> Could it be nice, each time the stathml elements that coincide with
> corresponding fields (elements, sections) on the  website (the original URL
> where the info in the strathml file comes from) , the strathml file
> elsewhere could update itself.
>
> Thank you very much
> Let me know if I can help with this
>
> PDM
>
>
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> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Andre Cusson <
> acusson@01communications.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Owen, Everyone,
>>
>> The ISTCS and ISTCS2 StratML document have been converted to StratML
>> Part2 as well as added and rendered to respective Web sites (#1020+) on the
>> StratML portal, at
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ISTCS.html
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ISTCS2.html
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>> As usual, all StratML documents are also available for editing, in
>> preloaded StratML Part2 forms, from the "Edit" link beside the
>> corresponding entry in the alphabetical StratML document list at
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html.
>>
>> The other StratML portal indexes have also been updated accordingly, as
>> well as the stakeholders and statistics pages, respectively at
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/stakeholders.html
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/statistics.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andre Cusson
>> 514 583 0601
>> 01 COMMUNICATIONS
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>>  Paola, your plan for ISTCS is now available in the StratML collection
>> at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#ISTCS or, more
>> specifically, http://xml.gov/stratml/dimaio/ISTCS.xml &
>> http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml Please note that I made a
>> few adjustments in the latter rendition of your plan.  Your goal<http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml#_f173517a-2d8b-11e2-a125-b56f5b280d48>should be exciting to many people.
>> ****
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>> When Andre has imported your plan into his StratML portal<http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html>,
>> his form<http://www.hyperbase.com/xml/cosmos/resource/apps/stratedit.xml>can be used to flesh it out as a performance plan, with designated roles
>> and performance indicators.  I trust that he will be happy to have folks
>> like you use his portal to post their plans and reports.****
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>> However, the vision of the StratML standard is:  *A worldwide web of
>> intentions, stakeholders, and results* … meaning that folks should be
>> free to post their plans and reports wherever they choose on the public
>> Web.  Service providers should compete for the privilege not only to host
>> StratML formatted plans and reports but also to make the information and
>> data they contain readily usable and useful to stakeholders.  MarkLogic,
>> for example, is redeveloping their StratML search service.
>> http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#MarkLogic ****
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>> BTW, while I was at it, I also converted ISTCS’s somewhat more formal
>> about us statement, at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCSwStyle.xml ****
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>> Owen****
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>> *From:* paoladimaio10@gmail.com [mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com<paoladimaio10@gmail.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Paola Di Maio
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10 AM
>> *To:* eGov IG (Public)
>> *Subject:* Fwd: Tools for eGovernance****
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>> From: *Paola Di Maio* <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance
>> To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
>>
>> ****
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>> Owen****
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>> Paola, don’t get me started on the term “governance” … which
>> all-too-often implies trying to gain the upper hand, politically speaking,
>> to force **others** to do things, rather than focusing on that which we
>> could and should do for ourselves, in partnership with those who share not
>> only our values but also our objectives.****
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>> Thank you for the reminder that this group is still not started taking
>> steps (unless I missed it) toward creating a shared definition for
>> egovernance (see previous emails). Not sure if the members of the group
>> have been surveyed yet to see what definition would work for them etc. (but
>> we had some exhcnages on this list to that effect) ****
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>>   ****
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>> BTW, it is good to see that you have documented a mission and personal
>> goal at http://personal.strath.ac.uk/paola.dimaio/  Imagine what might
>> be accomplished if multitudes of people were to document not only their
>> longer-term goals but also their near-term objectives on the Web in an **open,
>> standard, machine-readable format** like StratML.****
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>>  ****
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>> Thank yo for the prompt****
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>>  I have gone to STRATHML creator and created a test file to start with-**
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>> is there  a directory of strathml files I can load to>****
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>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XeDqbLLqHSQWpDdnFfLUdkbWs/edit****
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>> cheers****
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>> PDM****
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>>  ****
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>>  Owen Ambur****
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>> Co-Chair, AIIM StratML <http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm> Committee****
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>> Co-Chair Emeritus, xml.gov CoP****
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>> Communications/Membership Director, FIRM<http://firmcouncil.org/index.htm>
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>> Former Project Manager, ET.gov <http://et.gov/>****
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>> Invited Expert, W3C eGov IG<http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1>
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>> *From:* Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 6:30 AM
>> *To:* Tim Davies; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com
>> *Cc:* eGov IG (Public)****
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Tools for eGovernance****
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>>  ****
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>> Paola and Tim--****
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>>  ****
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>> It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many), than
>> about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the meetings.  My
>> understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do not actually
>> record or make recordable the verbal discussions and broadcasts from the
>> meetings.  For this group, therefore, I abide by those rules.****
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>> However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list
>> and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could
>> accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were
>> changed or for groups where the policies are different.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> --Jeanne****
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>> **********************************************************
>> Jeanne Holm
>> Evangelist, Data.gov
>> U.S. General Services Administration****
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>> Cell: (818) 434-5037
>> Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn: JeanneHolm
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>>  ****
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>> *From: *Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>
>> *Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000
>> *To: *<paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
>> *Cc: *"eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: Tools for eGovernance
>> *Resent-From: *<public-egov-ig@w3.org>
>> *Resent-Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000****
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>>  ****
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>> Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on
>> Remote Participation: ****
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>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1
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>> As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying
>> to remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also
>> worked hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of
>> tools and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face
>> meetings, and effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently
>> still seem somewhat elusive. ****
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>>  ****
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>> There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum
>> discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared
>> project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance
>> function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for
>> e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps
>> it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting.****
>>
>>  ****
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>> All the best****
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>>  ****
>>
>> Tim****
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>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
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>> just a quick household note ****
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>>  ****
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>> I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition****
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>> I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some
>> webex type application****
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>> ( anymeeting.com  is free and works well and there are others)****
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>>  ****
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>> While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries
>> and can easily spend hours on the phone****
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>> without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which
>> in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse)
>> ****
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>> it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone
>> long distance.****
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>> This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn at
>> some point)****
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>> I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events, for
>> example I could not attend in person****
>>
>> yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 ,  so sorry I am missing the
>> opportunity to meet in person so many of you!!****
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>>  ****
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>> Slides****
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>> http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides****
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>> Voiceover****
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp
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>> I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take
>> part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even
>> contemplated by the organisers****
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>> the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the
>> necessary eGovernance tools?****
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>> This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and
>> Tools  for eGovernance' (sine qua non)****
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>> I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities
>> are available****
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>> In the meantime, keep it growing :-)****
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>> Cheers****
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>> PDM****
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