Re: Tools for eGovernance

Thank you Tim and Jeanna



>  It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many),
> than about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the
> meetings.  My understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do
> not actually record or make recordable the verbal discussions and
> broadcasts from the meetings.  For this group, therefore, I abide by those
> rules.
>
>
 ah, yes- that was the answer I guess (recall) - apologies for asking again-

the thing is that even W3C is changing (moving towards more community
oriented participation and governance)
so even policies should change


 However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list
> and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could
> accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were
> changed or for groups where the policies are different.
>

sure-  thats the point of eGovernance: how can the members of a civil
community  influence the decisions of their governing bodies
/organisations/ (a 'systemic' issue here)

Plus, there can be a two tier policy within the same organization:

, whosoever have good reasons not to be recorded broadcasted, should be
entitled to do so
But whosover has not problem with their contributions being broadcasted
 should also be entitled to contribute in the way
that suits them best  - the world must go on even if some
people/organizations cannot move as fast as the pace of
technological development (Note: this is a central problem with
eGovenments, needs to be cracked fast)

Basically,  the policy type may influence  the membership type and type of
contributions/participation one is able to make

Look forward to our first virtual face to face meeting sometime soon I hope


PDM




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>   From: Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000
> To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
> Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance
> Resent-From: <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000
>
>  Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on
> Remote Participation:
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1
>
>  As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying
> to remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also
> worked hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of
> tools and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face
> meetings, and effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently
> still seem somewhat elusive.
>
>  There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum
> discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared
> project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance
> function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for
> e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps
> it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting.
>
>  All the best
>
>  Tim
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> just a quick household note
>>
>> I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition
>>
>>  I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some
>> webex type application
>> ( anymeeting.com  is free and works well and there are others)
>>
>>  While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries
>> and can easily spend hours on the phone
>> without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which
>> in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse)
>> it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone
>> long distance.
>>
>>  This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn
>> at some point)
>>
>>  I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events,
>> for example I could not attend in person
>> yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 ,  so sorry I am missing the
>> opportunity to meet in person so many of you!!
>>
>>  Slides
>> http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides
>> Voiceover
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp
>>
>>
>>  I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take
>> part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even
>> contemplated by the organisers
>>
>>  the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the
>> necessary eGovernance tools?
>>
>>  This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and
>> Tools  for eGovernance' (sine qua non)
>>
>>  I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities
>> are available
>>
>>  In the meantime, keep it growing :-)
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  PDM
>>
>>
>>
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