- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:20:21 +0100
- To: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
- Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Thank you v much G sounds great! >IThe D2R Server runs in a browser on > your local machine, at the "local" domain. thats what puzzles me I guess. why locally, and not virtual, in the cloud, where it should run? I presume it is because the data sets needs to be downloaded, normalised and tidied up before being queried to reduce errors? I cannot think of any other reason why SW applications would need to run locally. P All of the files are in the > right place. Since you can also do an RDF dump, you have everything you > need to run Callimachus - which is what runs the W3C GLD Community Directory > http://dir.w3.org/ So, the D2R Server is just another route to Government > Linked Data. My tool is intended to address the "domain" problem. If the > domain covers too wide an area you cannot deliver science (Brand knows a lot > about this) and maintain service levels across the domain. If the sewer > system in NYC is stressed it makes no difference if the sewer system in Los > Angeles has extra capacity. Sewer system relationships do not change when > linked. You can get a visualization of what "stressed" means, but linked > data does not solve the problems it may uncover. > > I'll try and post some tutorials tomorrow. > > --Gannon > > > ________________________________ > From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net> > Cc: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com; eGov > IG (Public) <public-egov-ig@w3.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:25 PM > > Subject: Re: technical web standards for eGov > > Thank you Gannon and Brand > > > hadnt understood I need to download d2r from github to make sense of > the ttl file > >> I used the D2R Server because 1) It delivers Linked Data in a portable >> format, and 2) The web server is relatively easy to get working on a local >> machine. > > ok- but can D2R functionalities not be served as a web service? > (thats what i'd aim for) > > Please consider writing some tutorials and how tos > for people to get on the same page on you with this data, and let me > know if I can help with foolproofing and promoting any outcomes. > Or even better, send some diagrams!! > > I ll have a go though (feeling inadequate) > > Cheers > > P > > > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net> wrote: >> I was a able to do something with Gannon’s data: >> http://semanticommunity.info/Gannon_Dick >> >> >> >> From: Gannon Dick [mailto:gannon_dick@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:02 PM >> To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com; eGov IG (Public) >> Subject: Re: technical web standards for eGov >> >> >> >> XML (HTML, etc.) is human readable, but linked data is not "human >> comprehensible". Visualizations provide some ideas, but it's an old story >> ... when you are looking at a marked-up document you are looking at a >> picture of text content, not the text itself. DATA.GOV published a Drupal >> 6 >> implementation some time ago on github. There is a lot of terminology to >> cope with there too. >> >> >> > > > > > > You don't need to do any further development of the framework. >> The D2R Server software is available on github. It is also possible, if >> you >> control the data base to extract data directly in a familiar >> outline/subject >> heading form. If you don't know what the screen shots mean it is because >> trying to draw a picture of a hypercube looks strange under the best of >> circumstances. "What the heck is that ?" is fine as long as you >> understand >> that "that" is something desirable to have when you are done. >> >> >> >> That said, eGov is a "vertical", a Public Utility, of the Top Level >> Domains. No other formulation makes sense ... the risk is that at the >> bottom, governance breaks down. At the bottom, linked data and the >> semantic >> web break down from the same cause, although it can not be said for the >> same >> reason. Commercial domains are free to "fly-over" (exclude) customers >> from >> their markets. Governments can not operate this way (excluding people) >> for >> very long. >> >> >> >> I'm sure I need more examples that look like familiar organization tables >> ... working on it :o) >> >> >> >> --Gannon >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> >> To: eGov IG (Public) <public-egov-ig@w3.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:59 AM >> Subject: technical web standards for eGov >> >> >> Now, having Gannon send a file that the browser cannot open brings up >> another issue, which may be more general to SW. >> >> Should we, as a W3C IG ensure that (at least one version of) data >> files and docs re e-Gov shared via the web are at a minimum, >> accessible via web based technologies (I know the browser, is there >> anything else that is used to navigate the web these days that I may >> not know of?) and do not require physical data downloads? >> >> When people send me dumps expect me to download stuff >> then they call it SW I cannot honestly believe this is where we are >> (sorry if I missed some important updates) >> >> >> P >> >> > > >
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