- From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:11:30 -0800 (PST)
- To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>, 'Owen Ambur' <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>, 'egov-ig mailing list' <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
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I agree, Brand. But I also think Owen is on to something when he says "calling their bluff". TBL seems to have thought sharing a two way street, or at least reversible with respect to information transport. IETF RFC 2396 is rather simple: (domain/authority)<->(path)<->(fragment|query) or (the reverse). The "vision" of Social Media as the only (fragment|query) is both technically and philosophically wrong. These are examples of Open Government Data[1]. And, this is an example of RFC 2396 in XML[2]. (the schema uses RDFa 1.1 Lite). I'll work on adding a Twitter Hashtag example, if it will make "Big Data" feel better. --Gannon [1] http://www.rustprivacy.org/2012/roadmap/stratml-marks.xml [2] http://www.rustprivacy.org/2012/roadmap/stratml-part2-source.xml ________________________________ From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net> To: 'Owen Ambur' <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; 'egov-ig mailing list' <public-egov-ig@w3.org> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding Then I think the big data version of the StratML vision is social media which is big data which uses XML, but not StratML! From:Owen Ambur [mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:05 PM To: 'Brand Niemann'; 'egov-ig mailing list' Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding Brand, the vision of the StratML standard is: A worldwide web of intentions, stakeholders, and results (i.e., the *Strategic* Semantic Web). Asking whether StratML will scale is like asking if HTML or XML will. Whether StratML becomes BIG data or not will depend upon whether people believe their own rhetoric about openness, transparency, and participation. (There’s a good chance they don’t, but if so, we should call their bluff.) I for one do not plan to sit idly by and wait for the “big boys” (like Google, TBL, or anyone else) to tell me what I may or should do. I plan to continue making such decisions for myself. I hope and trust I am not alone in that regard. Owen From:Brand Niemann [mailto:bniemann@cox.net] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:47 AM To: 'Owen Ambur'; 'egov-ig mailing list' Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding I do not see any mention of “Big Data” in either NIEM or StratML. Will they apply or scale to “Big Data”? From:Owen Ambur [mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:43 PM To: 'egov-ig mailing list' Subject: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding The recently issued National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding is now available in StratML Part 1, Strategic Plan, format at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#NSISS It would be good if the implementation plan were to be published in open, standard, machine-readable StratML Part 2, Performance Plan/Report, format with designated roles and clearly specified performance indicators. Doing so would be consistent with the provisions of section 10 of the GPRA Modernization Act (GPRAMA) as well as OMB Circular A-119. http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxml%2Egov%2Fstratml%2Freferences%2FPL111-532StratML%2Ehtm%23SEC10&urlhash=V3md&_t=tracking_disc & http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewhitehouse%2Egov%2Fomb%2Fcirculars_a119%236&urlhash=Dmb0&_t=tracking_disc Owen From:messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com [mailto:messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com] On Behalf Of National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) Group Members Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:55 AM To: Owen Ambur Subject: [1] discussion on LinkedIn National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) December 20, 2012 New Discussions (1) Are you ready for more #NIEM? Check out the National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding signed by the President. Started by Donna Roy, Experienced technology innovator with data and information focus.
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