- From: Daniel Smith <opened.to@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:26:17 -0500
- To: Mark Montgomery <markm@kyield.com>
- Cc: public-egov-ig <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, kmgov@list.jpl.nasa.gov
So, can I ask, this Big Data webinar from the White House, it was archived somewehere, or no? Thanks so much. Dan On 3/31/12, Mark Montgomery <markm@kyield.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > Please forgive the abrupt interruption of threads-- hope it's taken with the > good intention it is offered. > > Rob Neilson forwarded the Big Data webcast to me but I couldn't make it -- > will try to catch archive in next few days-- it was on one hand good to see > and on another dissapointing that so little innovation has been achieved in > improving R&D methods-- especially diffusion. We seem to call for > collaboration without considering the needs of the would-be collaborators. > As I shared with a cyber security lead for a major bank this week > > -- "We haven't modernized the R&D structure to current millennium, for > example, but expect different outcomes" -- much the same could be said > about the semantic web. Perhaps if shared publicly some good might accompany > any arrows. > > In reviewing archives of list thought I would join again as I see some > issues that are obvious to me that may not be to others given three decades > on the adoption side of tech-transfer, but also frequently discussing policy > behind the scene. That we are still calling for agencies to make data public > after all these years that isn't a security or legal concern is fairly > amazing to me, and speaks to some of the macro economic challenges we are > facing as a culture. I fear many are too blinded by our own passion and > interests. > > "A criticism voiced by detractors of Linked Data suggest that Linked Data > modeling is too hard or time consuming." > > I thought an exceptionally rare quote on this issue came from James Hendler > recently that is I think worth investing a bit more time on -- primary > reason for posting today -- > > "Yet, we don't really understand it (web) or know about it scientifically. > We do not know its economics. It's still hard to guess which things will > work on which scale and which won't. There are underlined principles of > confrontation and social concepts that we need to understand better to make > it grow." > http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/eworld/article2883222.ece?ref=wl_features > > With my many shortcomings, I do have one of the better track records in > forecasting future successful technologies that scale earlier than my peers, > especially since the commercialization of the web, although isn't apparent > by measuring assets--the education may have some value here. Most of this > knowledge does not reside within institutions -- at least for quite some > time, which leads to let's call it poor data quality in that assumptions are > quite often wrong and then scaled widely. The incentives to share are > similar to whistleblowers prior to reform and reward. > > The important summary I'd like to share which does not see enough discussion > in public, is that those economic issues involved are more complex than the > technology or they would likely have been resolved already. In semantics > actually the technology is far simpler than the economics IMO. For example > we identified in my small incubator and lab way back in 1998 that data > standards for provenance were necessary to create the functionality required > for most of the economically sustainable products and services, yet those > standards are just now maturing. First we must achieve the min level of > complexity to incentivize and sustain economics before the difficult task of > simplification in commercialization can do its essential task. Exceptionally > challenging given the conflicting business model of the web and the goal of > most of the semantic web community. > > Due to similar patience and persistant efforts on display here, the issue of > alignment of interests in IT, and more recently in neural network > economics-- alignment is slowly but surely becoming better understood. > Suffice to say that it's no accident that linked data and associated tools > are "too hard and time consuming" (such a general statement doesn't deal > with the economic conflicts of course -- LD is perhaps not difficult for > those compensated well for the heavy lifting, but rather almost everyone > else who must pay for the pleasure). I can speak directly to part of this in > a considerable recent effort in tool building -- insufficient economic > incentives have existed to compensate the relatively few people who have > demonstrated the ability to build such tools, and they are otherwise quite > busy and in demand of course-- the talent wars are real and strongly favor > those with some conflict. On many occasions I and others would have liked to > have help solve this problem but we have faced massive disincentives to do > so, especially on the consumer web (realize some don't like seperating > consumer versus enterprise in speaking about the web, but one must if > speaking with scientific credibility on economic incentives and modeling, > which influences adoption). > > What many advocates don't understand, apparently, is that when we insist on > free and open data for everything our actions directly conflict with our > passion for adoption of a more intelligent web. We live in a world of finite > resources-- indeed shrinking in much of the world, and all incumbents have > some economic conflict and misalignment with any innovation-- including > government, academia, and business. Of course that's why most technical > progress is considered disruptive -- any innovation of importance in a > mature society threatens important, entrenched, and powerful entities. I > can't overstate how critical this is in private conversations, some > protected by NDA. Indeed I am sometimes surprised by the progress given the > perception of the threat as it has been communicated to me--speaks in part > to soft power and diplomacy-- perhaps threat of regulation of some kind even > if not direct. > > It might surprise some to hear from one of the sources that quite a bit of > the business community in SV did not want an advertising model during the > commercialization of the web -- simply because it was fully understood by > some that it would be limiting to what it could support in terms of economic > activity and indeed functionality. Michael Dell was recently quoted for > example that the IT industry is a $3 trillion industry (annual revs), but > even though most of the focus and hype is on the consumer market the > consumer market is only about 1/10th the total. I haven't seen the same > research so can't confirm, but for many years I have warned about the > limitations of free and the macro negative impact it will have on jobs, > economics, and perhaps more direct to this topic -- data quality. Some of > the negative economic impact is degrading the ability of sponsors to fund > solutions. The consequences of free data that represents increasing amounts > of knowledge also represents an enormous number of jobs and a significant > portion of especially service economies like the U.S. -- some have guilds, > others do not, and in some cases ultimately it may not matter if the sponsor > is illiquid, but the profound economic impact and therefore limitations are > clearly not understood. I believe that it's the responsibility of any > advocate to fully understand the impact of their actions -- so do many NGOs > that have evolved their thinking on sustainable economics relative to their > mission, becoming leading experts on dissincentives and rebalancing > disequalibrium -- worth consideration -- we are only recently seeing signs > of similar maturity in computing. > > I submit that it's not necessary to compromise much if at all on data > standards if some informed comprimise is made on economic modeling and > behavior, but we must first understand the impact of our own behavior and > ideology--and then negotiate from a position of enlightenment -- that's > where the semantic web community quite often appears self-destructive from > close observation (less so in these archives than elsewhere). One of the > reasons I don't engage more in groups and conferences is to maintain some > perspective-- another is frankly at times it has been too painful to > observe. > > So in our case we had little choice but to focus on the enterprise where a > sustainable model exists, but even with fairly powerful economic incentives > inside many organizations, adoption has been longer and more difficult > journey of evolution than previous generations of technology. For what it's > worth I think we are seeing a bit of a reversal of the consumerization trend > for semantics that is more similar to three decades ago. That is to say that > we may see more advanced tools developed in the enterprise market that may > help overcome ease of use and modeling issues on the unrestricted web. > > Not intending or even inviting a debate, but rather contributing part of > what has been very expensive education and considerable sacrifice by those > around me, although welcome constructive private discussion. > > To those old friends and colleagues who have continued all these years to > work towards a more functional global economy through computing standards-- > and my old friends in KMGov (esp. volunteers)-- thank you and continued best > wishes. -- MM > > > >
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