- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:33:11 +0100
- To: Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
The minutes of yesterday's landmark meeting are at
https://www.w3.org/2016/05/13-dwbp-minutes and copied as text below.
Grumble: did *non one* think to generate the minutes, after 2.5 years of
doing this !! Thankfully there was a full IRC log on the server and I
was able to construct things.
Moan over - congratulations to the WG on reaching this consensus. Really
sorry I couldn't be there.
I'll get the docs ready for formal publication for Thursday and plan to
set Sunday 12 June as the deadline for comments. We'll need to address
all those comments before we can move the BP doc to Candidate Rec.
Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13 May 2016
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/13-dwbp-irc
Attendees
Present
Bernadette Loscio, Laufer, gatemezi, Eric Stephan,
Annette, Riccardo Albertoni, Yaso, Newton, EricKauz,
Hadley
Regrets
PhilA, Deirdre (see [3]voting intentions), Antoine (see
[4]voting intentions), Peter W
[3]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2016May/0056.html
[4]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2016May/0053.html
Chair
Yaso, Hadley
Scribe
Annette
Contents
* [5]Topics
1. [6]data quality vocab
2. [7]Dataset Usage Vocabulary
* [8]Summary of Action Items
* [9]Summary of Resolutions
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<yaso>
[10]https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20160513
[10] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20160513
PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes
<yaso> [11]https://www.w3.org/2016/05/06-dwbp-minutes
[11] https://www.w3.org/2016/05/06-dwbp-minutes
<yaso> +1
<ericstephan> +1
<Caroline> +0 I wasn't in the meeting
+1
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +0 (I was not present)
<BernadetteLoscio> +1
<newton> +1
RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes
<BernadetteLoscio>
[12]https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page
[12] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page
<laufer> hi yaso, all
BernadetteLoscio: yes, we've been through the document and have
been making all the changes
<gatemezi> hi all
<BernadetteLoscio>
[13]https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Comments_to_be_considered
_in_the_last_call_working_draft
[13]
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Comments_to_be_considered_in_the_last_call_working_draft
<yaso> Hi gatemezi
<gatemezi> Hi yaso
BernadetteLoscio: I think we are really near to the final
version of the document, and it's time to get feedback from the
community.
... thanks to Annette for finding a lot of little things.
... special thanks to Phil for work in correcting the English
and improving the text.
<yaso> annette_g: there are still few small thing to fix,
<yaso> ... the email from yesterday, talking w/eric
<ericstephan> real time access
<yaso> ... real time access
<yaso> BernadetteLoscio: they are in the docs already
annette_g: there are still a few small things.
BernadetteLoscio: what?
annette_g: real-time stuff with Eric
ericstephan: sorry for getting in my change late. It was
changing the implementation text. I used the language Annette
provided, and some of the examples in the article you provided.
BernadetteLoscio: anything else to fix?
<yaso> scribe: annette_g
<gatemezi> Annette maybe in PR #396
[14]https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/pull/396/files#diff-0
[14] https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/pull/396/files#diff-0
<BernadetteLoscio>
[15]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges
[15] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges
<newton> maybe it's cache
annette_g: sorry, I was looking at an older version
BernadetteLoscio: do you want to review the real-time
implementation?
annette_g: no, at this point we should just move forward
PROPOSED: to publish the Best Practices document
<gatemezi> +1 to annette_g
<yaso> +1
<BernadetteLoscio> +1
+1
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
<laufer> +1
<gatemezi> +1
<Caroline> +1
<newton> +1
<ericstephan> +1
<EricKauz> +1
RESOLUTION: to publish the Best Practices document
<yaso> o?
<yaso> o/
<BernadetteLoscio> great! thanks!
<ericstephan> good point laufer
laufer: we should note that Antoine
, [16]Deirdre.
[16]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2016May/0056.html
BernadetteLoscio: the turtle file needs to be updated
<riccardoAlbertoni_> Congrats ! and thanks for all the work Bp
editors have done ..
<gatemezi> Big thanks to the editors and reviewers
BernadetteLoscio: Is it okay that we make the changes and send
to the group?
<riccardoAlbertoni_> yes, ok for me
<BernadetteLoscio> ok! thanks!!!
yaso: I think it's okay. any concerns?
... any concerns about the BP document?
<yaso> [17]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
[17] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
data quality vocab
<riccardoAlbertoni_>
[18]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
[18] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
yaso: Riccardo?
<ericstephan> yes
riccardoAlbertoni_: Antoine and I have changed a lot of the
draft since the last draft was published of DQV. We have some
new contributors.
... main changes: we had a review of the model. quality
certificate, quality policy are new.
We borrowed the property wasDerivedFrom from Prov-O
how to express questions about dataset quality, how to express
that the dataset is given a quality rating, these kinds of
examples were added.
It was reviewed by Andrea Perego.
The section about dimensions was changed to refer to
classifications that were normal.
Anyone can invent their own or refer to existing quality
dimensions.
We refer to classifications in the quality dimensions, updated
the RDF file for the vocab. The only remaining issue needs the
BP doc to be final.
yaso: any other thoughts?
silence ensues
<yaso> [19]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
[19] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
yaso: thanks Riccardo and contributors!
PROPOSED: to publish the Data Quality Vocabulary
<ericstephan> +1
+1
<BernadetteLoscio> +1
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
<laufer> +1
<EricKauz> +1
<yaso> +1
<newton> +1
<Caroline> +1
RESOLUTION: to publish the Data Quality Vocabulary
<newton> congratulations Riccardo and Antoine :-)
<yaso> o/
BernadetteLoscio: I'd like to ask Annette to take a look at the
html page for the API documentation. I changed it based on your
suggestions, just to check that it's alright.
<gatemezi> +1
annette_g: Sure, thanks!
BernadetteLoscio: thank you!
<BernadetteLoscio> congratulations!!!!
Dataset Usage Vocabulary
yaso: next up, DUV
<ericstephan> [20]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
[20] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
<BernadetteLoscio> its ok ;)
ericstephan: the changes have been thoroughly minor. Most were
made and completed in March. One of the things we did in the
turtle file was to redefine some third-party classes, so we
removed those from the ttl tile. We removed domain and range
constraints and added usage recommendations to show how
properties might be used instead. The examples all were
changed, and they were aligned with the examples in the BP doc.
BernadetteLoscio had made some suggesti[CUT]
... we also have some input from the Force11 conference.
<yaso> Hi hadleybeeman
<yaso> !
annette_g: can you give detail on the Force11 input.
<yaso> hadleybeeman, I'll be glad to share the task :-)
ericstephan: it was more questions about how they could use it
in their own applications. There was some concern about reusing
vocabularies and that the model was complex.
<hadleybeeman> sounds good, yaso!
<yaso> great then, go ahead :-D
<yaso> oops
<yaso> chair: hadleybeeman
<yaso> (muted me so we don't have echo)
ericstephan: I don't know how to deal with a challenge like
that. Maybe it's a matter of describing the concepts
thoroughly. I contacted Sylvio Peroni, author of the SPAR
ontologies. He said he really supported what we did. I think
it's a challenge that we're always going to have with regard to
adoption.
<yaso> gatemezi, :-) it's the good part on having 3 chairs
<riccardoAlbertoni_> hi hadleybeeman ..
<yaso> poor Zakim :-/
hadleybeeman: sorry, my previous meeting ran over. well done!
... how much more discussion do we need before we vote?
yaso: we were just hearing Eric's explanation about the DUV
changes.
<ericstephan> :-)
hadleybeeman: does anyone have any concerns?
<ericstephan> Great thanks gatemezi
<ericstephan> ;-)
hadleybeeman: Is everyone happy with DUV?
annette_g: :)
<gatemezi> yes
ericstephan: one thing I would like to do but haven't been able
to do is show how DUV tracks the BP doc, show the rationale
behind what we did.
hadleybeeman: as a separate note or in DUV?
ericstephan: it might be nice to have it in the DUV as a way to
cite why we did what we did.
is that odd?
hadleybeeman: personally, if it's something an implementer
needs to know to use the vocab or understand it, it goes in the
doc. If it's meta-information, it's more useful and clearer in
a separate document.
ericstephan: I was thinking of just doing our due diligence to
coordinate with our entire effort.
hadleybeeman: I think it depends how thorough you want to be.
... If it's paragraphs per section, that's a separate doc.
ericstephan: it's kind of a table of contents for the overall
activity.
hadleybeeman: that's certainly something we can do.
ericstephan: I'd like to show that somewhere
hadleybeeman: yes, we just need to make sure it's addressing
needs, doesn't compromise people's ability to use the doc
<ericstephan_> wow
hadleybeeman: any other comments about this doc?
silence ensues
<yaso> great!
PROPOSED: to publish the Data Usage Vocabulary
<hadleybeeman> +1
<BernadetteLoscio> +1
<ericstephan_> +1
<laufer> +1
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
<EricKauz> +1
+1
<newton> +1
<gatemezi> +1
<Caroline> +1
<yaso> +1
<ericstephan_> zakim isn't sure about me now there is another
version of me without the underscore
RESOLUTION: to publish the Data Usage Vocabulary
<BernadetteLoscio> :)
<yaso> o/
<newton> :-(
<BernadetteLoscio> great!!!!
:)
<newton> ops, :-)
<ericstephan_> :-)
<newton> I'm happy!
<laufer> congrats all, and thanks too. it is a very happy day
<yaso> lol
hadleybeeman: congratulations to all the contributors!
<ericstephan_> This is a first 3 in one meeting
<BernadetteLoscio> congratulations all!!!
<ericstephan_> close early
<yaso> true!
hadleybeeman: do we want to work through issues or close early?
<riccardoAlbertoni_> huge victory
yaso: close early
<Caroline> congratulations!!! Great job all!!!
<ericstephan_> thank you!
<yaso> thank you all! Congrats! all voted :-D
<ericstephan_> congratulations and have a good weekend
<yaso> bye all
<riccardoAlbertoni_> thanks all .. have a nice week end
hadleybeeman: everyone's been working really hard. You earned
your 12 minutes!
<laufer> bye all
bye all!
<gatemezi> Thanks chairs hadleybeeman and others
<gatemezi> bye all
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
1. [21]Approve last week's minutes
2. [22]to publish the Best Practices document
3. [23]to publish the Data Quality Vocabulary
4. [24]to publish the Data Usage Vocabulary
[End of minutes]
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