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Re: DQV, ISO 19115/19157 and GeoDCAT-AP

From: Andrea Perego <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:59:32 +0200
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To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Cc: "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Many thanks, Antoine.

Looking forward to reading the meeting minutes

Best,

Andrea


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
> Dear Andrea,
>
> I am not sure whether your email has been acknowledged earlier. In case
> we've failed at it: we'd like to thank you. These are relevant comments, and
> should be addressed.
> We've included your feedback in the agenda for our discussion at the DWBP
> F2F (starting tomorrow afternoon, European time)
> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/index.php?title=F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DQV&oldid=2880
>
> #2 and #3 are rather specific issues, we will have to dive deeper in them.
>
> As regards #1, it is a rather general comment and I feel I could try to
> start answering you now (we'll need further discussion of course)
> I think DQV could be indeed qualified as "core" that can be "extended" or
> "refined", in the sense of creating new elements related to the core ones by
> sub-class or sub-property links.
> In some places DQV is even what I'd call a "meta"-level framework, where
> classes are instantiated to represent resources that are still relatively
> generic E.g., an instance of dqv:Dimension could be ex:consistency, which is
> still fairly abstract. Here DQV works a bit like SKOS, in the Semantic
> technology stack.
>
> Anyway, that is to say that DQV can be probably seen as belong to the same
> level as the ISO standards you refer, looking at the "data elements" defined
> by these standards.
> So I believe we should try to making DQVcompatible with them.
>
> Best,
>
> Antoine
>
>
> On 8/31/15 12:51 AM, Andrea Perego wrote:
>>
>> Dear DWBP WG,
>>
>> I have a few of questions / comments on DQV, specifically related to
>> its use for geospatial metadata (for this reason, I'm cc'ing also the
>> SDW WG).
>>
>> 1. Data quality is one of the "elements" included in the current
>> standards used for geospatial metadata, namely, ISO 19115:2003 and ISO
>> 19157:2013 (see [1, 2] for an overview). I wonder whether you would
>> consider (at least, partial) compatibility with the approaches defined
>> in those ISO standards as a possible requirement. More in general, my
>> question is about the design principles behind DQV. I wonder whether
>> you see it as a "core" vocabulary, meant to define the main data
>> quality concepts, common across domains, that can be possibly extended
>> to address domain-specific requirements.
>>
>> 2. Specifically with respect to "conformance" with quality standards /
>> benchmarks: ISO also includes it, with the notion of "conformance
>> result". However, as far as I can see, in DQV you support only one
>> specific case via dct:conformsTo, i.e., when data are "conformant",
>> whereas ISO allows also to state that data are NOT conformant.
>> Moreover, INSPIRE "extends" ISO by allowing to state that conformance
>> has not been evaluated (see [3]).
>>
>> 3. Following from point (2): GeoDCAT-AP [4] addresses this issue by
>> modelling conformance results with PROV (using nonetheless also
>> dct:conformsTo when data are conformant with the referred
>> specification). For the modelling "pattern" used, feedback has been
>> asked from the PROV WG (see the relevant mail thread [5]). Actually,
>> the original proposal was to use EARL - I contributed that approach in
>> an earlier mail [6]. However, the GeoDCAT-AP WG eventually decided to
>> switch to PROV, as a more sustainable solution. You can find an
>> explanation in the description of the relevant issue:
>>
>> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/142454
>>
>> Here's an example:
>>
>> <a:Dataset> prov:wasUsedBy [
>>   a prov:Activity;
>> # Conformity degree
>>    prov:generated [
>>     dct:type
>> <http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/DegreeOfConformity/conformant>
>> ;
>>    prov:qualifiedAssociation [
>>     prov:hadPlan [
>>       a prov:Plan;
>>       prov:wasDerivedFrom [
>> # Specification
>>          a prov:Entity, dct:Standard;
>>         dct:title "COMMISSION REGULATION (EC) No 976/2009 of 19 October
>> 2009 implementing Directive 2007/2/EC of the European Parliament and
>> of the Council as regards the Network Services"@en
>>         dct:issued "2009-10-20"^^xsd:date
>>       ]
>>     ];
>>   ];
>> ] .
>>
>> and the same by using dct:conformsTo:
>>
>> <a:Dataset> dct:conformsTo [
>> # Specification
>>    a dct:Standard;
>>    dct:title "COMMISSION REGULATION (EC) No 976/2009 of 19 October 2009
>> implementing Directive 2007/2/EC of the European Parliament and of the
>> Council as regards the Network Services"@en
>>    dct:issued "2009-10-20"^^xsd:date ] .
>>
>> Of course, the PROV-based approach allows to attach additional
>> information about the provenance of quality metadata - i.e., when the
>> test has been carried out, by whom, with which methodology and/or test
>> tool, etc.
>>
>> Any feedback you would provide on this approach would be very much
>> relevant for the final specification of GeoDCAT-AP.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> ----
>> [1]https://geo-ide.noaa.gov/wiki/index.php?title=ISO_Data_Quality
>> [2]https://geo-ide.noaa.gov/wiki/index.php?title=File:DQ_DataQuality.png
>> [3]http://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/com/2008/1205#d1e2036-14-1
>> [4]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/139283/
>>
>> [5]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-comments/2015May/0001.html
>> [6]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0142.html
>>
>



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