Re: New DQV editor's draft

Hoi,

Actually my preference would be that we first publish two drafts for the
docs and after we receive the feedback look into publishing both them as a
rec revision of DCAT

Christophe

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Op 26 mei 2015 17:47 schreef "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:

> Hi,
>
> I have already expressed my preference for the Rec option, but I prefer to
> cast my final vote once I have a more precise feeling about the
> stability/consensus level of the vocs.
> Do we need to make a decision right now?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> On 5/26/15 5:44 PM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio wrote:
> > +1 from me too!
> >
> > cheers,
> > Bernadette
> >
> > 2015-05-26 12:38 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret <
> christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl <mailto:christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>>:
> >
> >     A warm +1 from me too.
> >
> >     Christophe
> >
> >     --
> >     Sent with difficulties. Sorry for the brievety and typos...
> >
> >     Op 26 mei 2015 13:48 schreef "Eric Stephan" <ericphb@gmail.com
> <mailto:ericphb@gmail.com>>:
> >
> >         >> But of course, an REC for DCAT 1.1 would be seen by many as a
> good thing.
> >
> >         +1
> >
> >         Eric S.
> >
> >         On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org
> <mailto:phila@w3.org>> wrote:
> >
> >             If the WG has the capacity to take DQV and DUV through Rec
> track, then, of course, it can (formally, I believe that the chairs and I
> would have to make the case to the Director and possibly the members but I
> woudn't expect that to be a problem). It means gathering evidence that the
> terms are useful in the real world - which should be doable of course, it's
> a question of time and resources.
> >
> >             But of course, an REC for DCAT 1.1 would be seen by many as
> a good thing.
> >
> >             As ever... it's up the WG ;-)
> >
> >             Phil.
> >
> >
> >             On 26/05/2015 09:23, Antoine Isaac wrote:
> >
> >                 Hi Phil,
> >
> >
> >                     I have a flight later today when I need to read
> through a lot of docs.
> >                     The Spatial data WG is also racing towards a
> publication next week so
> >                     if anyone fancies joining me in reviewing a UCR with
> more than 40 use
> >                     cases, be my guest!
> >
> http://w3c.github.io/sdw/UseCases/SDWUseCasesAndRequirements.html
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Hmm, not sure I have the bandwidth - but it looks like a
> very nice,
> >                 complete document ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                             Against that, we're currently heading for
> DQV as a Note, not a Rec
> >                             (unless you want to put it through Rec
> Track). So in that sense, the
> >                             whole document is non-normative so
> dependencies are less critical.
> >                             And I re-raise the possibility of putting
> all these new terms, and
> >                             DUV, in the DCAT namespace. For me, that's
> the thing to do but it's a
> >                             WG decision of course.
> >
> >
> >                 [...]
> >
> >
> >                         I am very eager to add our new elements to DCAT.
> But how would this
> >                         work, in terms of formalities?
> >                         Would we as editors of DQV/DUV have to become
> editor of the DCAT
> >                         vocabulary? Is it possible to re-open something
> that is a W3C Rec, to
> >                         put in it content that was supposed to be one of
> a Note?
> >
> >
> >                     The namespace and the definitions are separate. A
> Note that said "we
> >                     define the following new terms in the DCAT
> namespace" would exist in
> >                     TR space (presumably at /TR/vocab-dqv) and we'd add
> the actual terms
> >                     to /ns/dcat#. The DCAT REC remains unchanged.
> Likewise for DUV of
> >                     course *if* that's what the WG decides.
> >
> >                     On the downside, it means that definitions of terms
> in the DCAT
> >                     namespace are spread across several documents.
> Therefore, the
> >                     community-minded thing to do would be to create a
> single doc that
> >                     listed all the terms.
> >
> >                     Hmm... isn't that what a namespace doc is for? Shame
> to say, we never
> >                     did create an HTML doc at http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat
> - we really should
> >                     have done - and should still do. I would be happy to
> take on the task
> >                     of creating such a page if that's the direction the
> WG wants to take
> >                     (and I actually have time to do this over the
> summer).
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Yes, a namespace doc could have everything it. And you
> should count on
> >                 all editors to help you with it!
> >                 Personally I would still find the setting strange, where
> a main Rec
> >                 wouldn't include everything that the corresponding NS
> includes, and the
> >                 NS would mix Rec- with Note-level elements.
> >                 But well, if this is discussed in W3C process circles
> and it's alright,
> >                 then why not.
> >
> >                 Note that I too should have a bit more time to help
> pushing something to
> >                 Rec status, if the WG and/or W3C decides to do so. It
> would be a shame
> >                 to end up with the current WG work being seen as looking
> slightly lame,
> >                 if the only reason for this is process stuff (of course
> if the content
> >                 is not judged Rec-level, then we'd be in a much
> different situation).
> >
> >                 Cheers,
> >
> >                 Antoine
> >
> >
> >             --
> >
> >
> >             Phil Archer
> >             W3C Data Activity Lead
> >             http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
> >
> >             http://philarcher.org
> >             +44 (0)7887 767755 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755>
> >             @philarcher1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> > Centro de Informática
> > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
> >
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