- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:09:18 -0000
- To: "Laufer" <laufer@globo.com>
- Cc: "Bernadette Farias Lóscio" <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, "Phil Archer" <phila@w3.org>, "Newton Calegari" <newton@nic.br>, "Caroline Burle" <cburle@nic.br>, "Public DWBP WG" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
> > > Very good, Phil! > > Congrats! > > Do you think that links from the stamps to the benefits section would be > too much? Oh we can link anything :-) > > Cheers, Laufer > > --- > . . . .. . . > . . . .. > . .. . > > Em 07/12/2015 22:05, Bernadette Farias Lóscio escreveu: > >> Hi Phil, >> >> Thanks a lot for all the updates and improvements on the DWBP doc :) I'm >> really happy with the new version. >> >> Please feel free to change the style when you think its necessary. I >> just know the basics of html, so improvements and suggestions are really >> welcome :) >> >> Newton solved the conflicts and the new version is already on Github >> [1]. >> >> Concerning the links, I agree that it is better to use the same link in >> the text and in the hyperlink. I'm gonna try to include a link for the >> files in the example section. >> >> We still need to update some of the links in the document because we >> were using just example.org [1]. >> >> Thanks! Berna >> >> [1] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html [2] >> >> 2015-12-07 9:02 GMT-03:00 Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>: >> I've spent more time on the doc since our last meeting (actually, too >> much time, I need to stop enjoying myself by wiring code and get on with >> some other stuff, including creating the RDF files I promised the vocab >> editors). >> >> Basic aim: >> - replace the static image of the lists of benefits with something that >> is auto-generated. >> >> Others have created the HTML/CSS version so I used the styles from >> Bernadette's repo but made various changes and suggestions. >> >> In more detail >> ============== >> >> There's now some scripting at the top of the page that sets up details >> of the benefits themselves and then looks through the doc for instances >> of ul elements of class 'benefitsList'. >> >> At present, all the BPs end with a set of img elements. I've replaced >> those in the HTML with a ul list. If scripting is disabled then the user >> would see that textual list. With it turned on, they get replaced by the >> icons. >> >> The CSS for the tables was a little tricky. It was all over the shop in >> my version, even though I re-used the styles that work in Berna's >> version. In the end I've set it up using a multi-column layout and that >> seems to work. >> >> I also played with the SVG a little to make the text centralised across >> the icon itself. >> >> I question the value in saying that every BP has the benefit of reuse. >> It's true that they do, but, as you say, that's the point of the doc as >> a whole. I'd be inclined to drop that as a specific benefit. Where it is >> the only benefit for a BP then we may need to come up with a new one :-) >> >> @Newton, on your question here... >> Yes, having a live dataset is clearly good. I do worry about having a >> different link in the text than the actual hyperlink. Thinking about it, >> I'd be inclined to make a separate link. >> >> As an example, see http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#operational [3] >> >> If there's just one CSV file for the whole doc then it can be linked >> from the section where the running example is first introduced? >> >> Also, please note that I've changed the domain data.mycity.gov [4] to >> data.mycity.example (since mycity.gov [5] could potentially exist one >> day, .example will not). >> >> Too much has changed in the main repo for me to make a PR (at least, one >> that can be merged) but you can see everything I've done at >> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html [6] >> >> HTH >> >> Phil. >> >> On 04/12/2015 12:57, Newton Calegari wrote: >> Hi Phil, >> >> thanks for your contribution :-) >> >> To make the examples more practical, we would like to use "some real >> examples", lke to make a dataset available, for instance. >> >> In the example you decied to use the URL >> http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv >> [7] >> <http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv >> [7]>, but we want to make possible to access the "timetable.csv" in the >> "http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-transport >> [8]...timetable.csv". >> >> Do you think if it is ok on using something like this, to make the >> dataset accessible: >> <a >> href="http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-ransport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv >> [9]">http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv >> [7]</a> >> >> The "visible link" will be different of the href. >> >> cheers, >> Newton >> >> Em 03/12/2015, à(s) 15:35, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> >> escreveu: >> >> Hi Phil, >> >> Thanks a lot for your message and for your contribution! >> >> I've been spending some more time looking at the BP doc - it's looking >> better all the time. >> >> Thanks :) >> >> I know you've done a lot on it recently, so much so that I can't merge >> my changes. Don't care what people say, if 2 people are working on the >> doc at the same time, 99% of the time one of you is going to trash your >> local GH fork and start again. C'est la vie :-) >> >> Anyway, you can see what I've done at >> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers [10] >> <http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers [10]> >> >> The first two BPs there now have examples that build on the running >> example of My City data. >> >> Yes, it's gonna be difficult to merge because now I am reviewing the >> whole document and I'm trying to include more examples and the BP >> benefits. In this case, it's better if I include the examples that tou >> created on the version that I'm working now. >> >> As a result of this, I've made a note that I'd really like to change the >> many instances of :dataset-001 to :timetable-001 (and equivalent changes >> throughout). This is because it makes more sense in the context of a >> persistent URI for the dataset. >> >> Yes! I like the idea! I'm gonna do this. >> >> I've also been working with Christophe on examples for the Data >> preservation section. See >> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#EvaluateCandD [11] >> <http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#EvaluateCandD [11]> >> >> I have more I want to do tomorrow before the meeting but that's where >> I'm up to for now. >> >> Great Phil! I am really happy with the examples. >> >> I also want to update the SVG diagram and turn those lists of benefits >> into HTML/CSS rather than the current image. >> >> It sounds great! I used the png because I'm not really good with svg or >> CSS. >> >> And those SVG icons for the benefits should, I think, be separate files >> and incorporated as <img src="....svg" rather than written inline, no? >> >> Yes! I'm gonna do this. >> >> And, finally, native-speaker pedantry coming up... >> >> Trustworthy should really be "Trustworthiness" but that's very long. How >> about simply 'Trust'? >> >> And one more thing, 'Accessibility' at W3C usually refers to the >> accessibility of Web pages (WCAG and all that). Would you be OK with >> simply calling that benefit 'Access'? >> >> I think it's ok! I was not really happy with the use of "Accessibility". >> Let's use Access and wait for the feedback ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Berna >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil. >> >> -- >> >> Phil Archer >> W3C Data Activity Lead >> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ [12] <http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ [12]> >> >> http://philarcher.org [13] <http://philarcher.org/ [14]> >> +44 (0)7887 767755 [15] <tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755> >> @philarcher1 >> >> -- >> Bernadette Farias Lóscio >> Centro de Informática >> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > Phil Archer > W3C Data Activity Lead > http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ [12] > > http://philarcher.org [13] > +44 (0)7887 767755 [15] > @philarcher1 > > -- > > Bernadette Farias Lóscio > Centro de Informática > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://example.org > [2] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html > [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#operational > [4] http://data.mycity.gov > [5] http://mycity.gov > [6] http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html > [7] > http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv > [8] http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-transport > [9] > http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-ransport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv > [10] http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers > [11] http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#EvaluateCandD > [12] http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ > [13] http://philarcher.org > [14] http://philarcher.org/ > [15] tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755 > -- Sent from my phone. 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