Re: DBpedia - Usage Example

Hi Eric!

Interesting thread. In 2013 we held a hackathon with the Ministry of 
Justice and the datasets were terrible, full of errors and missing 
semantic. When the ministry released the datasets the teams organized 
the issues on github [1] (here comes yaso with github again, lol) and we 
keep the interactions upon the dataset improvements at a conversation in 
a mail list [2].

To the extent that the dataset was being "repaired" the ministry 
improved other datasets that was in "the line" for opening. But only 
because we had use cases (the apps) to where improvements were important.

I imagine that this kind of interaction upon a dataset is not yet a 
widespread method of working with data, at least in governamental 
sphere. I like the idea of cycles of improvements based on usage of 
data, provoked by standardized feedback and other ways of conversations 
and also like the idea of tracking usage of data. I can imagine that it 
would be really useful, but still have not imagined a way to implement 
it without taking advantage of usage of 2 or more tools at the same time 
:-)


yaso



[1] https://github.com/W3CBrasil/PerguntasMJ/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
[2] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/dadosabertosmj



On 04/27/2015 01:20 PM, Eric Stephan wrote:
>
> Hi Laufer,
>
> I’ve been thinking about the DBpedia dataset example over the 
> weekend.     This may not be what you are looking for, but thinking 
> about the DBpedia example generated many ideas that may be useful as 
> we discuss how we implement Dataset Usage Vocabulary concepts in the 
> real world.
>
> DBpedia is one of the premier off the chart rock stars of datasets  I 
> find it the very opposite of many obscure scientific datasets that I 
> am more accustomed. My first reaction when you provided the links to 
> DBpedia applications I thought this example was much to trivial 
> depicting associations between the dataset and the application links. 
>  However the more I thought about this rockstar dataset, the more I 
> got to thinking about “who” was talking about usage of the dataset, 
> “who” was talking about applications and experiences with the 
> dataset.  Was I ever wrong to think your posed example problem was trival.
>
>
> Here’s what I found:
>
> Twitter feeds, Reddit, Tumblr, Youtube, Github, scholar.google.com 
> <http://scholar.google.com> are all talking about DBpedia data usage 
> in blogs, forums, code repositories etc.  The dataset usage 
> discussions are happening in multiple natural languages. These 
> discussions involved experts and novices.
>
> The problem is that all of these wonderful knowledge exchanges are 
> happening in a variety of forms and there is no composite way to 
> complete my understanding about DBpedia dataset application usage.
>
> One possible application from a consumer perspective of the dataset 
> usage vocabulary is that I have a service that can periodically search 
> these services and maintain a database composite picture of dataset 
> usage using the Dataset Usage Vocabulary as a common representation 
> that may describe experiences using the SPARQL API and tools and 
> example queries that are refinements of what is provided by DBpedia. 
> >From the dataset publisher perspective this same application could 
> help aid in discovering what people are discussing that aren’t 
> directly reported to the website.
>
> Sumit and I are meeting with a group of scientists tomorrow to explore 
> how scientists can explore the deep web more effectively for climate 
> research.
>
> I don't know if this is useful to you, but I'm curious as to what you 
> and others in the group think of the "usage" of the Dataset Usage Vocab.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Eric S
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ericphb@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Laufer,
>
>     Great idea, perhaps this would be another example I could work
>     through...keep these ideas coming :-)
>
>     Eric
>
>     On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Laufer <laufer@globo.com
>     <mailto:laufer@globo.com>> wrote:
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>
>         Hi Eric,
>
>         Maybe would be interesting to see how DUV could be used with
>         DBpedia.
>
>         There is a web page with a list of applications that use the
>         Dataset:
>         http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Applications
>
>         There is another web page that explain the online access to
>         the Dataset:
>         http://wiki.dbpedia.org/OnlineAccess
>
>         Cheers,
>         Laufer
>
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