Re: Intrinsic vs extrinsic metadata (my action #54)

Hello Antoine,

Thank you for your comments!

As I said in the other message, maybe the diagrams are vey complex to be
presented to the reader of the BP document, but on the other hand they may
help our discussion. If the diagram doesn't help, then we don't need to use
it.

To better illustrate the ideas about metadata, I think that this diagram
should be divided in two: one for the main concepts (similar to the one of
[1]) and other one just for the metadata hierarchy.

Answering your question about the 'general metadata': this metadata is
similar to the one that describes a dataset in DCAT.

kind regards,
Bernadette

[1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines


2014-07-11 11:06 GMT-03:00 Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:

> Dear all,
>
> Thanks for the very interesting discussion.
> I'm afraid some of it may be too demanding on us (workload-wise) and our
> readers though.
>
> I mean, pointing to DCAT and voiD is useful. And having a terminology like
> what Bernadette has put up at [1] is also great. People need help with the
> notions.
> But diagrams give a feeling of commitment and formlization. It can be
> useful, but are our readers really expecting a theory on what a dataset,
> data, etc are?
> To me this is what the part on the top of Bernadette's graph hints at:
> what is data, what is a dataset, why a distribution encompasses a bundle of
> data+dataset... Why is a vocabulary relevant only to metadata and not a
> dataset (see question at [2]).
> Same for the extrinsic/intrisinc gradation: why would license metadata be
> less extrinsic than access metadata? And why should we really bother
> discussing this?
> All these can be quite slippery slopes.
>
> I am very much in favour of the simple listing at [3]. I understood  it in
> ten seconds, it didn't raise too many questions of the sort 'what did you
> mean', it it seemed relatively complete. I'm not claiming it is, but at
> least after 30 seconds of thinking I couldn't see an obvious miss, and this
> is good enough to leave me in peace ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> antoine
>
> PS: by the way what is the 'general metadata' in Bernadette's graph?
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#Terminology
> [2]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Jul/0040.html
> [3] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/index.php?title=Guidance_
> on_the_Provision_of_Metadata&oldid=1431#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata
>
>


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Bernadette Farias Lóscio
Centro de Informática
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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