- From: Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 23:40:20 -0800
- To: Silvio Peroni <silvio.peroni@unibo.it>
- Cc: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, public-dwbp-comments@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAMFz4jhtiEK_o8nGdSfYUgLQGHKZHJBiB_UkzLSVdX-qMVneOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you again Dr Peroni for invaluable help. Please look at the link to model Bernadette provided earlier, I made updates based on your recommendations. I hope your guidance is captured accurately. Eric S. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Silvio Peroni <silvio.peroni@unibo.it> wrote: > Hi Bernardette, all, > > I am one of the DUV co-authors and I'd like to say that we really > appreciate your feedback. > > > Thanks, it’s been my pleasure. > > We have discussed some of your questions about the meaning of the > duv:DataCitation class and our idea was to use duv:dataCitation as a > "bibliographic reference contained in an entity, e.g., a paper (i.e., the > citing paper), to a particular dataset". So, considering the example that > you gave, we made the following changes: > > - the class duv:DataCitation was replaced by the class > biro:BibliographicReference > > > That’s what I was thinking about when I wrote that email to you indeed. > > - the object property cito:hasCitingEntity was included to connect > cito:CitationAct and frbr:Work > > > I would suggest a slightly small modification here. > > In the FRBR spec, the part/partOf relations are possible only with > entities of the same type: work with work, expression with expression, > manifestation with manifestation, and item with item. Now, a > biro:BibliographicReference is indeed a piece of text within a larger > document, and clearly refers to the FRBR expression level (which is the one > responsible for the actual content of a document). Thus, the frbr:part > relation in the diagram at [1] should be from a FRBR expression to the > biro:BibliographicReference. > > In addition to that, since the whole DUV W3C spec is about data citation, > I also would suggest to adopt fabio:Expression instead of frbr:Expression, > since the former class has been appropriately developed for the scholarly > domain and includes the restrictions I’ve mentioned above for > frbr:part/frbr:partOf, which are not present in the original FRBR RDFS > vocab in [2]. If you go to the fabio:Expression documentation [3], you can > also see the several subclasses it has, that basically address the main > part of the scholarly publication types. > > Thus, to my personal view, the modification should become: > > - the object property cito:hasCitingEntity was included to connect > cito:CitationAct and fabio:Expression > > What do you think? > > Thanks again for involving me in this. > Have a nice day :-) > > S. > > [1] - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxTZf3B9yQ3oNDJoUFBvRHR5cUU/view?usp=sharing > > [2] - http://vocab.org/frbr/core > [3] - > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/http://purl.org/spar/fabio#http://purl.org/spar/fabio/Expression > > > > The current diagram is available here [1]. Please feel free to make > comments and suggestions. > > Many thanks again! > Bernadette > > > > > > > > 2015-12-29 4:11 GMT-03:00 Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Dr Peroni, >> >> >>I’m just wondering right now… I don’t know what is the right meaning of >> the duv:DataCitation class, but I think two alternatives are possible: >> >> >> 1. it is a bibliographic reference contained in an entity, e.g., a >> paper (i.e., the citing paper), to a particular dataset, which is then >> characterised by a text that, in some way, refers to the actual cited >> dataset; >> >>2. it is the actual dataset that is cited by the citing entity. >> >> Thank you once again for your valuable feedback. To help provide you >> with a better perspective or our rationale for the DataCitation class it >> was an attempt to ensure we had all of the essential citation information >> for datasets based on common requirements[1][2][3] . To me, properties of >> the DataCitation class could be capable of being expressed as a reference >> in a journal article or as a metadata record. The attempt was to support a >> dual purpose. >> >> From the helpful examples you provided below, I'm using this as guidance >> as to how we can achieve the above reusing the SPAR ontologies as you have >> illustrated. I'll send an update to the vocabulary based on your feedback >> and send you an email so that you can review our latest updates. >> >> >> Many thanks again, >> >> Eric Stephan >> >> References >> [1] http://libguides.lib.msu.edu/citedata >> [2] http://einstein.library.emory.edu/citations_general.html >> [3] >> http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/content/datamanagement/citations.html >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Silvio Peroni <silvio.peroni@unibo.it> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Eric, >>> >>> Thank you so much for your kind response and very helpful guidance on >>> the use of SPAR ontologies. Our citation model is very fluid at this point >>> where it is easy to make changes and I would prefer making changes based on >>> your recommendations prior to our request for comments in early January. >>> >>> >>> That’s great! >>> >>> We did look at biro:BibliographicRecord at one point but weren't sure >>> about its use. I'll look over this, if we find additional properties that >>> are not in the scope of biro:BibliographicRecord I am wondering if our >>> additional properties could serve as requests for additional properties >>> within BIRO? If we did use this I'd have to ask our other co-editors about >>> the use of FaBIO:work. >>> >>> >>> I’m just wondering right now… I don’t know what is the right meaning of >>> the duv:DataCitation class, but I think two alternatives are possible: >>> >>> 1. it is a bibliographic reference contained in an entity, e.g., a paper >>> (i.e., the citing paper), to a particular dataset, which is then >>> characterised by a text that, in some way, refers to the actual cited >>> dataset; >>> 2. it is the actual dataset that is cited by the citing entity. >>> >>> If 1) is true, then it seems quite odd to me that a reference has a >>> title and other attributes typically related with a proper bibliographic >>> resource: they are actually attributes of the referenced work. In SPAR, >>> that scenario could be modelled by means of the class >>> bibo:BibliographicReference and the classes fabio:Work and fabio:Expression >>> (or one of their subclasses). For instance, suppose that we have a paper A >>> citing a dataset B by using the following bibliographic reference: >>> >>> Doe, J. (2015). The example dataset to cite. Version 1, Sept 15, 2015. >>> DOI: 10.3456/4567.21 >>> >>> Then, in SPAR, a good way for modelling this will be (I’m using Turtle >>> now): >>> >>> :dataset-b a fabio:Dataset , dcat:Dataset ; >>> dcterms:title "The example dataset to cite" ; >>> prism:doi "10.3456/4567.21" ; >>> dcterms:creator :j-doe ; >>> frbr:realization :dataset-b-v1 . >>> >>> :dataset-b-v1 a fabio:Expression ; >>> pav:version "Version 1" ; >>> prism:publicationDate "2015-09-15"^^xsd:date . >>> >>> :paper-a-work a fabio:ResearchPaper ; >>> frbr:realization :paper-a-expression . >>> >>> :paper-a-expression a fabio:JournalArticle ; >>> frbr:part :reference-to-dataset-b . >>> >>> :reference-to-dataset-b a biro:BibliographicReference, duv:DataCitation ; >>> dcterms:bibliographicCitation "Doe, J. (2015). The example dataset to >>> cite. Version 1, Sept 15, 2015. DOI: 10.3456/4567.21" ; >>> biro:references :dataset-b-2015-04-01 . >>> >>> :paper-a-cites-dataset-b a cito:CitationAct ; >>> cito:hasCitingEntity :paper-a-expression ; >>> cito:hasCitedEntity :dataset-b-v1 . >>> >>> As you can see, the title, the DOI, etc., are not attributes of the >>> bibliographic reference included in the citing paper, but are attributes of >>> the actual cited dataset. Note that I’ve used pav:version ( >>> http://pav-ontology.github.io/pav/) for indicating the version number >>> here because dcterms:hasVersion actually relates two resources rather than >>> a resource with a literal. Note that here the duv:hasWork has been replaced >>> by frbr:part (in the other direction, but also frbr:partOf exist in case it >>> is needed). >>> >>> Another note: when we speak about citations, expressions (in terms of >>> FaBiO/FRBR ontological entities) should always exist, since they actually >>> define the actual content of a paper/dataset rather than its pure essence >>> (i.e., the FaBiO/FRBR work). Citations, in our scenarios, should exist only >>> when they are explicitly created by means of a text. That’s why I’ve used >>> fabio:Expression and fabio:JournalArticle (which is a subclass of >>> fabio:Expression) as proper entities linked to the related works (i.e., >>> fabio:ResearchPaper and fabio:Dataset, that are subclasses of fabio:Work). >>> >>> On the other hand, if the alternative 2) is true, then, we can avoid the >>> explicit specification of such :reference-to-dataset-b, and consider our >>> duv:DataCitation as the dataset (actually, a particular version of a >>> dataset) cited. But then I’m not sure duv:DataCitation is actually a good >>> name, it may be just fabio:Expression. >>> >>> It might interest you as well that we are looking at several >>> non-semantic vocabularies expressed in XML ( >>> https://www.force11.org/sites/default/files/d7/project/882/citing-data-in-jats-2015-06.pdf) >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve done a bit of work on JATS to SPAR conversion (see [1] for more >>> details), and, while the mapping is always possible, it is not so direct as >>> one can guess. I didn’t know about this new spec from Debbie, but it seems >>> a very good XML spec to me, thanks. >>> >>> and JSON (e.g. http://okfnlabs.org/bibjson/) and the BFO/IBO/IAO >>> ontology suite . >>> >>> >>> I know them, but honestly not an expert yet. >>> >>> I'd like to attempt map citation classes from the SPAR vocabularies to >>> these within the scope of DUV to get buy-in about our approach in other >>> metadata communities. If you are aware of any work like this and can let >>> us know, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> Beside the JATS to SPAR work, I don’t have any. However, I would be >>> interested in working on the mapping between BibJSON and SPAR indeed… >>> >>> I hope it may help. >>> Have a nice day :-) >>> >>> S. >>> >>> >>> # Rererences >>> 1. Peroni, S., Lapeyre, D. A., Shotton, D. (2012). Mapping JATS to RDF >>> using the SPAR (Semantic Publishing and Referencing) Ontologies. In >>> Proceeding of the Journal Article Tag Suite Conference 2012 (JATS-Con >>> 2012). Bethesda, Maryland, USA: National Center for Biotechnology >>> Information. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK100491/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Silvio Peroni, Ph.D. >>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>> University of Bologna, Bologna (Italy) >>> Tel: +39 051 2094871 >>> E-mail: silvio.peroni@unibo.it >>> Web: http://www.essepuntato.it >>> Twitter: essepuntato >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Bernadette Farias Lóscio > Centro de Informática > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Silvio Peroni, Ph.D. > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > University of Bologna, Bologna (Italy) > Tel: +39 051 2094871 > E-mail: silvio.peroni@unibo.it > Web: http://www.essepuntato.it > Twitter: essepuntato > >
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