RE: DPUB ARIA module

Hi Michael,

The DPUB IG does not have another meeting until Monday. We (chairs and staff) can attest that the DPUB IG supports moving forward with FPWD of the Digital Publishing Module of ARIA. Next time, we will provide a formal RESOLUTION.

All we need from you is the stable URL for https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html. 

Thanks,
Tzviya Siegman
Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884
tsiegman@wiley.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Cooper [mailto:cooper@w3.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:53 AM
To: Janina Sajka; Ivan Herman
Cc: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken; Richard Schwerdtfeger; W3C PF - DPUB Joint Task Force
Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module

On the Process point - my view is that while PF is the sole publisher (largely for bureaucratic reasons of the structure of the DPub IG charter), because the document is so closely developed with the DPub IG, it would be really stinky for the PFWG to publish something that the DPub IG did not support. We should have assurance that the DPub group supports it. Whatever process you want to use to obtain a credible assurance of that support is fine. A formal resolution is the most clear version of that, even if W3C Process doesn't care about it. If the leadership of the IG simply wants to assert that there is support and we won't  receive retroactive objections, I guess we can go with that.

On "hear from Michael that we're ready for a PFWG CfC", is there something open waiting on me? I don't remember anything coming to my attention, I was simply waiting for the document to be turned over to me to start publication prep.

Michael

On 24/06/2015 10:40 AM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Thanks, Ivan. Your response on this thread suffices on behalf of the 
> IG, imo.
>
> So, as soon as I hear from Michael that we're ready for a PFWG CfC, 
> I'll put that out.
>
> Janina
>
> Ivan Herman writes:
>> Janina, others,
>>
>> my apologies for putting my administrative hat on:-) Maybe Michael should also chime in if I am mistaken somewhere.
>>
>> Formally speaking, the DPUB ARIA Module document is a publication of the PF Working Group, as the status section clearly says. The status makes no mention of the DPUB IG, and that is actually the right thing because the current DPUB IG (as an Interest Group) is not chartered to publish a Recommendation. This also means that, again by the process, a formal RESOLUTION for FPWD publication should come from the PF WG only, there is no need for such an administrative step on the DPUB IG side.
>>
>> Of course, this is a joined task force, and there should be an agreement on both sides to go ahead. As Tzviya said, this has already been discussed by the DPUB IG, and the IG's approval is on record. So... while of course we can go through the admin step if you really feel that it is necessary on the PF side, it is certainly not necessary per W3C process (and, I must admit, I prefer to reduce the admin load wherever possible). I think that if the PF WG can formally vote for the resolution as quickly as possible, we can get the admin done through Judy (as domain lead) and we can go on with the FPWD publication next week.
>>
>> My apologies again for the formalities...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 24 Jun 2015, at 03:01 , Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tzviya:
>>>
>>> Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken writes:
>>>> Thanks, Rich
>>>>
>>>> In the DPUB meeting this week, we did not put forward a formal resolution, but we did discuss the document [1]. If it is necessary, we can formally resolve over email.
>>>
>>> I think it would be good to log a formal RESOLUTION. Email is 
>>> certainly OK, as long as there's a "decision" email at the end of 
>>> the thread that can be pointed to.
>>>
>>> It's my bad for not bringing this up last week. I have no excuse, I 
>>> simply forgot momentarilly that we're a joint TF, so technically 
>>> need the approval of both sponsoring groups, D-Pub_IG and PF_WG for 
>>> the FPWD request that will be forwarded to our W3C Domain Leads.
>>>
>>> I believe we can still publish next week.
>>>
>>> Rich: Thanks for reminding me that we did log a RESOLUTION during 
>>> the D-Pub telecon last week. That was also my muddle today. Can I 
>>> blame it on the heat? <grin>
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/22-dpub-minutes.html#item02
>>>>
>>>> Tzviya Siegman
>>>> Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead Wiley
>>>> 201-748-6884
>>>> tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>>>>
>>>> From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:34 PM
>>>> To: Janina Sajka
>>>> Cc: DPUB-ARIA (public-dpub-aria@w3.org); Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
>>>> Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Janina,
>>>>
>>>> The DPUB Accessibilty task force did formally resolve to take it to FPWD:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-dpub-aria-minutes.html
>>>>
>>>> Here is the text:
>>>> RESOLUTION: put this to FPWD
>>>>
>>>> Were you referring to the ARIA task force? Both calls are held on Thursdays. I think the main issues for the ARIA task force were addressed with the dpub- vocab preamble.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>>>>
>>>> [cid:image001.gif@01D0ADB2.14028DC0]Janina Sajka ---06/23/2015 
>>>> 11:27:36 AM---Thanks Tzviya, and congratulations D-Pub! Because 
>>>> this is to be a FPWD, it would be helpful to have
>>>>
>>>> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>
>>>> To: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" 
>>>> <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>>
>>>> Cc: "DPUB-ARIA 
>>>> (public-dpub-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-dpub-aria@w3.org>)" 
>>>> <public-dpub-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-dpub-aria@w3.org>>
>>>> Date: 06/23/2015 11:27 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tzviya, and congratulations D-Pub!
>>>>
>>>> Because this is to be a FPWD, it would be helpful to have a formal 
>>>> RESOLUTION: logged requesting this FPWD. Perhaps we can do that on a Thursday call?
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, it would be good to have a RESOLUTION in support from 
>>>> the D-Pub IG.
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken writes:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The draft of Digital Publishing WAI-ARIA Module [1] is ready for a stable URL so that we can move forward with a CfC to DPUB and PF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael, I believe this is something that you manage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tzviya
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Tzviya Siegman
>>>>> Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead Wiley
>>>>> 201-748-6884
>>>>> tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 
>>>> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>>> Email: janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>
>>>>
>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
>>>>
>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative 
>>>> (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
>>> 			sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>> 		Email:	janina@rednote.net
>>>
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
>>>
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Chair,	Protocols & Formats	http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>
>>
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