- From: Livio Mondini <l.mondini@webprofession.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:29:04 +0100
- To: Mia Lipner <mia.lipner@pearson.com>
- Cc: Deborah Kaplan <dkaplan@safaribooksonline.com>, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, public-dpub-accessibility@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAA2uxmu1ytJ=hQhZqTFm=C_CqQS0CitwxaJPg+JBShpFOeZMUA@mail.gmail.com>
I think is a big error think that Flash can be excluded, and that this group can do. Flash is alive and people have to make accessible if they use following WCAG2. I am not a fan, but he is hardly used, Jobs or not. The fact that epub3 actually don't permit use of Flash is irrilevant. Livio On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Mia Lipner <mia.lipner@pearson.com> wrote: > Although Flash can be made screen reader accessible, Flash accessibility is > only really fully supported in one browser/screen reader combination > (IE+Jaws on Windows.) > This is a pretty restrictive environment, but at the same time, there is > currently content out there being hosted in Flash environments. > I don't know that we can disregard this completely -- we'd want items in > Flash to be as accessible as possible, including straight keyboard > accessibility. But Flash itself should definitely be discouraged. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Kaplan [mailto:dkaplan@safaribooksonline.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:43 AM > To: George Kerscher > Cc: Charles LaPierre; public-dpub-accessibility@w3.org > Subject: RE: WCAG A11Y DPUB techniques > > I actually don't think it is possible to give Flash keyboard-accessible > controls and yet keep it from being a keyboard trap, even if you make it > otherwise accessible. On the other hand, WCAG allows Flash; given that, is > it permissible/reasonable for our group to disallow it? > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, George Kerscher wrote: > > > I am in agreement with Steve Jobs; Flash should not be allowed. I > > understand that it is technically possible to make it accessible, and > > I think I saw one at some point that I could use. However, my > > experience is that it is mostly inaccessible. > > > > My $.02 > > > > Best > > George > > > > > > From: Charles LaPierre [mailto:charlesl@benetech.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:14 AM > > To: George Kerscher > > Cc: public-dpub-accessibility@w3.org > > Subject: Re: WCAG A11Y DPUB techniques > > > > Hi George, we assigned Flash to Livio, who thought they were all > > relevant but you think we shouldn’t bother with Flash for DPUB at all? > > Don’t you think some publishers may want to publish some Flash content > > in their web-based publication? > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Charles LaPierre > > charlesl@benetech.org > > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2015, at 6:52 AM, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I must have missed the call where flash was discussed. I would put > > this in the same camp as silverlight; I would say it is not allowed. > > > > Best > > George > > > > > > From: Charles LaPierre [mailto:charlesl@benetech.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:36 AM > > To: public-dpub-accessibility@w3.org > > Subject: WCAG A11Y DPUB techniques > > > > Hello DPUB Accessibility TF, > > > > For the past few months we have gone through the WCAG Techniques > > looking to see what was relevant to DPUB. Here is a summary of what we > > found so far. > > We need to discuss the items that we feel are not required for DPUB > > and those we still had questions about so we can determine if they are > > relevant or not to DPUB. Hopefully we can discuss these at our next > > meeting. I will send out a reminder and hopefully a new time slot for > > this Friday if we can get the phone system switched over in time to host > > our call. > > > > Here are the WCAG techniques and what we feel are relevant to DPUB. > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB ARIA Techniques > > All Relevant > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Flash Techniques > > All Relevant > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Plain Text Techniques > > All Relevant > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB SMIL Techniques > > All Relevant > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Common Failures > > All Relevant > > > > > > A11Y DPUB Techniques (THIS IS NEW) > > Possibly Additions > > > > Page Numbers > > > > Drop Caps > > > > Notes (Footnotes, Asides, Author Notes, etc.) > > > > positional location of text to indicate different speakers, > > > > phonetic spellings of proper nouns (maybe indi work in w3c?) > > > > how does layout improve comprehension? > > *More work is needed here to flesh out missing WCAG techniques > > relevant to DPUB. > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Silverlight Techniques > > All Not Relevant (Silverlight has begun End Of Life) > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB General - Technique Development Assignments Not > > Required > > > > G1: Adding a link at the top of each page that goes directly to the > > main content area > > > > G9: Creating captions for live synchronized media > > > > G63: Providing a site map > > > > G71: Providing a help link on every Web page > > > > G157: Incorporating a live audio captioning service into a Web page > > > > G174: Providing a control with a sufficient contrast ratio that allows > > users to switch to a presentation that uses sufficient contrast > > > > G175: Providing a multi color selection tool on the page for > > foreground and background colors > > > > G178: Providing controls on the Web page that allow users to > > incrementally change the size of all text on the page up to 200 > > percent > > > > G180: Providing the user with a means to set the time limit to 10 > > times the default time limit > > > > G181: Encoding user data as hidden or encrypted data in a > > re-authorization page > > > > G185: Linking to all of the pages on the site from the home page > > > > G188: Providing a button on the page to increase line spaces and > > paragraph spaces > > > > G189: Providing a control near the beginning of the Web page that > > changes the link text > > > > G200: Opening new windows and tabs from a link only when necessary > > > > G201: Giving users advanced warning when opening a new window > > > > Not Sure > > > > G177: Providing suggested correction text > > > > G179: Ensuring that there is no loss of content or functionality when > > the text resizes and text containers do not change their width > > > > > > G133: Providing a checkbox on the first page of a multipart form that > > allows users to ask for longer session time limit or no session time > > limit > > > > G139: Creating a mechanism that allows users to jump to errors > > > > G143: Providing a text alternative that describes the purpose of the > > CAPTCHA > > > > G144: Ensuring that the Web Page contains another CAPTCHA serving the > > same purpose using a different modality > > > > G155: Providing a checkbox in addition to a submit button > > > > G164: Providing a stated time within which an online request (or > > transaction) may be amended or canceled by the user after making the > > request > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB HTML Techniques > > Not Sure > > > > H35: Providing text alternatives on applet elements > > > > H84: Using a button with a select element to perform an action > > > > H85: Using OPTGROUP to group OPTION elements inside a SELECT > > > > H89: Using the title attribute to provide context-sensitive help > > > > H93: Ensuring that id attributes are unique on a Web page > > > > > > H86: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, emoticons, and > > leetspeak > > > > H91: Using HTML form controls and links > > > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB CSS Techniques > > Not Relevant > > > > C9: Using CSS to include decorative images > > > > C28: Specifying the size of text containers using em units > > > > C29: Using a style switcher to provide a conforming alternate version > > > > Not Relevant but this is a powerful customization that is constantly > > being used on the web. > > > > > > C15: Using CSS to change the presentation of a user interface > > component when it receives focus > > > > Not Sure > > > > C7: Using CSS to hide a portion of the link text > > > > C12: Using percent for font sizes > > > > C22: Using CSS to control visual presentation of text > > > > C23: Specifying text and background colors of secondary content such > > as banners, features and navigation in CSS while not specifying text > > and background colors of the main content > > > > C26: Providing options within the content to switch to a layout that > > does not require the user to scroll horizontally to read a line of > > text > > > > C30: Using CSS to replace text with images of text and providing user > > interface controls to switch > > > > C14: Using em units for font sizes > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB PDF Techniques > > Not Relevant > > > > PDF7: Performing OCR on a scanned PDF document to provide actual text > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Server-Side Scripting Techniques Not Sure > > > > SVR1: Implementing automatic redirects on the server side instead of > > on the client side > > > > SVR2: Using .htaccess to ensure that the only way to access > > non-conforming content is from conforming content > > > > SVR3: Using HTTP referer to ensure that the only way to access > > non-conforming content is from conforming content > > > > SVR4: Allowing users to provide preferences for the display of > > conforming alternate versions > > > > SVR5: Specifying the default language in the HTTP header > > > > > > WCAG A11Y DPUB Client-side Scripting Techniques Not Relevant > > > > SCR24: Using progressive enhancement to open new windows on user > > request > > > > SCR28: Using an expandable and collapsible menu to bypass block of > > content > > > > SCR30: Using scripts to change the link text > > > > Not Sure > > > > > > SCR29: Adding keyboard-accessible actions to static HTML elements > > > > > > SCR1: Allowing the user to extend the default time limit > > > > SCR14: Using scripts to make nonessential alerts optional > > > > SCR18: Providing client-side validation and alert > > > > SCR21: Using functions of the Document Object Model (DOM) to add > > content to a page > > > > SCR22: Using scripts to control blinking and stop it in five seconds > > or less > > > > SCR31: Using script to change the background color or border of the > > element with focus > > > > SCR32: Providing client-side validation and adding error text via the > > DOM > > > > SCR33: Using script to scroll content, and providing a mechanism to > > pause it > > > > SCR35: Making actions keyboard accessible by using the onclick event > > of anchors and buttons > > > > SCR36: Providing a mechanism to allow users to display moving, > > scrolling, or auto-updating text in a static window or area > > > > SCR37: Creating Custom Dialogs in a Device Independent Way > > > > SCR27: Reordering page sections using the Document Object Model > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Charles LaPierre > > <mailto:charlesl@benetech.org> charlesl@benetech.org > > > > > > >
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